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Snowdon Summit Slum To Go...
Plans have been approved to replace the delightful cafe come bunker on Snowdon with a new, more sympathetic model reports the BBC

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Geoffrey Neill
21/01/04 13:14
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Full story on the BBC.
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Alison Stockwell
21/01/04 13:23
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"the colour of the stone will be close to the greyness of the sky"

LOL; they obviously know it well.
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Alex Ford
21/01/04 19:39
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DO we need a cafe? WE? Well I have lived without going into it ever, but all those tourists who use the train to go up? Maybe they do.

And maybe just one or two might get the bug to try walking up it and then one or two of those get the bug to try others....well you never know.
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Geoffrey Neill
21/01/04 19:43
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It needs a pub is what it needs!
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Robbie Williams
21/01/04 20:09
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Seeing the dress sense of some of the walkers only 1 week ago, a bloke & 2 kids all in trainers plastic waterproof and jeans, no warm kit to look at little girl crying (now wearing my spare hat and duvet)little boy wearing my mates and crying).

it's a good kit shop they need. Oh no! we'll end up with a mall. Oh! I spoke to the dad and he told me to F---K--f. I think he was miffed, I was the little girl left snot on the sleeve of my jacket
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Greg Carns
21/01/04 23:38
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Considering what a great job Williams-Ellis did of Portmeirion and Plas Brondanw he really f**ked up with this montrosity! I've had a few pints at the top before but it's always closed when I get there now as I usually go early to avoid the crowds. I think it's good to have something there and any replacement will surely be better than the original!? Finest moment there was sending a postcard to my son after plucking up the courage to go over Crib Goch!
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Jenny Smith
22/01/04 02:12
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Can we have one like they do high up in the Alps, please?
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Jon Doran
22/01/04 10:12
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A beer you mean? If you look at the articles linked to from the bottom of the article above, there's an artist's impression type thing of what the new one will - allegedly - look like.

Personally I'd like one with a revolving restaurant at the very highest point of the mountain. Its real function, of course, is to make us glad that it's the exception rather than the rule and to provide an audience of admiring tourists once you've thugged your way up the Clogwyn y Person arete in summer or some gulley on the Trident Face in winter and are looking all butch and cool, festooned in rope. Perhaps Trail could sponsor it and provide a handy guide with bearings to getting down again... Oops, what am I saying?
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Lloyd Bower
22/01/04 13:13
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Good to see they might finally get round to replacing it. Do we we need one? with the right design and facilities I don't see why not.

There are many in the Alps, and they seem to blend in OK.
I've stopped at a couple of mtn restaurants in Switzerland, the food usually decent quality and the prices not a total rip off in comparison.

Obviously the Alps are on a totally different scale, to the Snowdon range, but ceratinly a rebuilt duilding can only be an improvement on what's there.

I guess the only other mtn top cafes in the UK, are in the Scottish Ski Centres - including Anoch Mor (apoligies spelling totally wrong) & the Cairgorm.
Not been to the former and not seen the latter since the funicular railway was built.

I would certainly be against extending these to other hills, but there's no reason why what's already there shouldn't be improved if the finance is there.
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joan collins
22/01/04 15:48
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I would like to see people who aren't young, aren't fit and can't afford hundreds of pounds worth of gear encouraged to enjoy the mountains. If that means building the odd cafe or mountain railway, so be it. It's hardly a pristine mountain wilderness there anyway. And as Lloyd says, it could be done as it is in the Alps, in a discreet way that wouldn't offend the delicate sensibilities of 'proper walkers'. Anyone who wants a bit more peace and quiet only has to go a few miles down the road to find it.
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Alex
22/01/04 20:09
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Well said Joan and Lloyd!

As for pristime mountain wilderness? No such thing, but I digress.
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Darren Wheeler
24/01/04 14:28
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When or if it ever gets built how long before there is a sign saying "No dirty footwear and wet coats" or you are required to wear a tie for the lunchtime sitting and full evening dress later.

It will be aimed at the podgy tourist who has just enough energy to waddle from the train to the tables and back again via the giftshop selling snow globes in mid July.

Very similar to the top of Mount Mansfield in Vermont. Posh resturant and twee gift shop too.
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Parky Again
24/01/04 15:13
with "proper" facilities it may well encourage more people to get off their bums and get out. also a chance to put up/print proper advice for clothing if planning to walk in either/both directions.
we seem to have a strange notion in this country that anything that gives pleasure has to be made as hard as possible to pursue. this is a major tourist area, and instead of trying to relieve people from their money as painlessly as possible by providing quality and value for money services (go to austria for example) we expensively provide bugger all and moan when litter, soil due to lack of toilets, people in inappropriate clothing happens.
get some proper professionals in who know what to do and how to manage such a resource. this in turn may well engender (?) some pride in our outdoors and get more people out with the right attitude.


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philip newing
25/01/04 19:09
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I'd just like it to be open on May Bank Holidays when its 24 degrees and you've drunk all your water on the way up and the summit is heaving.

Cue Welsh jobsworth accent tinkering with train 'Oh no were not open yet..too early...no demand, see'.
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Lloyd Bower
26/01/04 08:37
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24C Bank Hols? I don't remember too many of those!
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