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captain paranoia
20/05/10 18:35

I find Thermawrap a bit fragile for sleeping mat use, so my suggestion would be a couple of layers of 4mm expanded polythene (NOT polystyrene).  Aka 'JiffyFoam'.

As with Thermawrap, it's bulky to carry.

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TP
20/05/10 18:43

" certain amount of fat and protein are essential if only for recovery from the day's exertions but you will get most energy from carbohydrates and they should form the bulk of your meals. Don't eat just before you turn in, to get the most from your carbs eat at least an hour before then and try gentle exercise after your meal, a mile or two of gentle walking will do it. This gives time for the starch in your meal to start to be metabolised and gentle exercise will help it along." 

I have read that a large proportion of your base metabolic rate is supplied by fats and as you exert yourself the ratio of fats to carbs utilised changes so you end up more carbs to support your increased activity. That means that whilst sleeping you are not exerting yourself as much so will be using more fats relative to carbs as the higher and more energy dense source. That is why I mentioned peanuts. It has also been suggested many times in many other sources as a good thing to eat last thing to help with maintaining the supply of heat through your body to the sleeping bag. It is afterall your body that is keeping you warm and the cold outside of the sleeping bag is "sucking the heat out". As far as timings to eat before sleeping it probably doesn't matter too much. You start to get thermogenesis from food digestion after about half an hour but if through light exercise before hand you are likely to be warm and that warmth should last for a bit. Perhaps eat as you are lightly exercising but whilst in your bag it can do no harm to keep topping it up until you go to sleep.

Reynauds does not effect your whole body temperature as far as I read (a recent diagnosis which is a bit unusual since I am over thirty and most reynauds start before you are thirty).

Also there is a bit of basic physics that might apply here. Correct me if I'm wrong but body shape can have an effect (allbeit a probably smaller effect). I mean the more surface area to volume you have the quicker the heat can escape. Tall thin people quite possibly cool quicker than round short people. No offence but IIRC Kate is tall and quite slim, perhaps Gini is the same. I'm sure that's the case.

Anyway Gini, I think you probably have enough ideas from posters here to go out and try. Besides as someone predicted it has gotten warmer and when you go out, end of next week IIRC, you should have warmer nights. Although if like Kate is (from people who know her have described her) that is no guarantee that you will still be warm. I knew of some lass who had to wear gloves on the hottest day whilst walking but that was Reynauds. The woolley hat was a fashion choice though and not a good one.

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Mike fae Dundee
20/05/10 18:45

I've found Thermawrap to be virtually indestructible! I've used the same bit as a winter sit-mat for ages, and it is unmarked. Same with a sleep-mat and cozies i've made. There seems to be 2 different things that folk call 'Thermawrap'. The metallic bubble-wrap, and the polystyrene with foil on one side. I use the metallic bubblewrap.

It is bulky to carry though.

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TP
20/05/10 18:46
Another thing people from different countries cope with conditions in other countries differently. An example to show what I mean is some guy I knew came from a part of the world that in the right season it would actually get colder than over here and he had no problem. However in a mildish winter here he always complained about the cold. I thinkit was the difference between a dry cold and a damp one. Could be wrong but its something I've observed, whatever the cause.
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captain paranoia
20/05/10 19:14

> I've found Thermawrap to be virtually indestructible!

Funny; I've found it to crush & puncture quite easily.  And, yes, it's Thermawrap metallised bubble wrap, off a big roll from B&Q.

Having finished a series of Flissure making (Titan, LifeVenture 400ml mug, Blacks 'Solo' HA Al pot, Trangia 1l UL and Alpkit MyTiMug), I've been making cosies, and have contemplated wrapping the entire outer in gaffer tape to protect the outer face; there's a nick in the thing already...

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captain paranoia
20/05/10 19:16

> I thinkit was the difference between a dry cold and a damp one

I shared a house with a Swedish lass.  She pooh-poohed the idea that she might get cold in winter in the UK; "I'm from Sweden, I am used to the cold!".  Come winter, she sheepishly admitted that she got cold.  And couldn't understand why...

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El Manana
20/05/10 20:54

if its any consolation i spent Sunday night at Dale Head (Lakes). I was sleeping in a RAB Q250 which is a zero bag but probably good to -3C. The temp hit about +3C and i was quite cold with just base layers on. Although i was cold, i reckon i was only one insulated layer away from being comfortable (like an insulated vest) and probably some improved ground insulation which i hadnt taken.

p.s. if your not keen on thermawrap, an OMM Duomat costs about £12 and would cover the main part of your Neoair and should do the trick.

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Metric Kate
20/05/10 22:41
Time to go wrote (see)
Tall thin people quite possibly cool quicker than round short people. No offence but IIRC Kate is tall and quite slim, perhaps Gini is the same.

That's very nice of you, ttg, but it's not quite how I'd describe myself!!

Women also tend to get cold in the hip area - so additional insulation there, such as a down jacket slung over the sleeping bag there, can be very useful.

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Anna Barker
09/06/10 13:35
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Hi

This usually happens to me too. I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it in earlier posts but "peddling" your legs once you're lying down in your sleeping bag (and making sure that you've got your head snuggled down nicely inside) works really well for me.

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gini overton
09/06/10 13:46
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Well I ended up pretty snug actually, but I think that was mainly down to sharing a tent with 3 guys.

Ended up swapping my neoair for a self inflating mat though as I just couldn't get comfy on it.

Love my down booties, even if I did get laughed at quite a bit!

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