Brilliant a map and a compass. map Y lines should point to the north (including local deviation). Turn your map with your compas to the north. Next place compas centre on spot where you. Point compas to point where you want to go. Turn compas ring to plot the bearing on you compas. Start walking with comaps in your hand and keep bearing. Or walk to point on horizon you found when using the plotted bearing on your compass. And this is jut the basic. To hell with coordinates.
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 > So AM Is the left top most great square and then somehwere in the middle of that big square is the M square. Well, that's close. But the centre square of each 5x5 grid is actually 'N', since we don't use 'I' ABCDE FGHJK LMNOP QRSTU VWXYZ > map Y lines should point to the north (including local deviation). Not in the UK. Maps are printed with grid lines, so your 'Y' (as in x-y cartesian coordinates) lines are grid N lines. These aren't the same as true north lines, or magnetic north lines, which is why we end up doing grid to magnetic translations. I tend to use the edge of the compass to link 'here' and 'there' points when setting the compass, just as if I was going to draw a line between them with a ruler. > To hell with coordinates.;) They're useful when you're trying to say where you are, though...
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Yes, try UTM data.
I went there and downloaded that onto my PC.
I feel very shaken by the experience. I don't know what to do next You need it on your phone, not your PC: either transfer it to your phone via the wee cable, or run up the internet on your phone and download it directly.
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> I went there and downloaded that onto my PC. > I feel very shaken by the experience. > I don't know what to do next Follow the instructions...? Download the Zip file Use a Zip tool (e.g. Winzip) to unzip the Zip file (which will yield a JAR file: a Java applet ARchive file). Connect your phone to your PC with the cable that came with the phone. Then run the Nokia utility that should have come with your phone 'Nokia PC Suite' (or download it from the Nokia website), and use this to download the JAR file to your phone.
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 oh my god - i wish i could do this sort of stuff
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 Me too!!!!! "Old dogs, new tricks"?
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Ofcourse captain coordinates have their uses. I do have some OS maps but not near hand. Is the compas magnetic deviation from the grid not graphically displayed in the legend? On maps where the grid isn't magnetic north most of the times in the legend is graphically displayed the magenetic deviaton by my knowlegde.
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> Is the compas magnetic deviation from the grid not graphically displayed in the legend? Yes, it is. It's a representation only, though; you need to use the printed value and variation from the printing date of the map (also printed on the map). The easy way to set this is to align the compass capsule to grid north, and then turn it E or W by whatever the local variation is. And do the reverse when plotting bearings from the compass to the map. Much easier than the oft-quoted 'grid to mag: add' etc. will become obsolete when the variation moves from W to E...
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Yeah i figured so, but you need the deviation somehow printed on the map to do so. Times I wander with compass in the neterlands are never long stretches (it's a small country lots of pavement and buildings), so I actually don't bother to correct.
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If I'm heading to a large 'feature' in good weather, I usually don't bother either, if in bad weather or complex route finding I do. Well, depends on how much the variation is, if less than 2d, it's hard to be accurate using a "normal" compass. Under those conditions to be really accurate you'd need a 'sighting' compass with 'mils' rather than degrees.
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Ofcourse captain coordinates have their uses. I do have some OS maps but not near hand. Is the compas magnetic deviation from the grid not graphically displayed in the legend? On maps where the grid isn't magnetic north most of the times in the legend is graphically displayed the magenetic deviaton by my knowlegde.
The OS Grid North is only true North along the 2°W meridian
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 Less than 18 months ago I was dealing with a magnetic variation of about 36 degrees! It really looked odd holding a compass when you could see that amount of difference.
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I'm sure it did!!! Anyone know what the mag. variation ranges from west to east in UK & Ireland?
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