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David
24/02/11 14:33
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Hi there,
Just wondering if anybody has done any walking in Japan of Taiwan. I'd be interested in some info on great hikes you've done in either country. There is more information for Japan, but only a few blogs for Taiwan (that I can find) plus a walking guide for the Taipei region. There are loads of mountains over 3000m!
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David
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thomas corsmeir
28/02/11 19:56
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Lonely Planet's "Hiking in Japan"

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hiking-Japan-Lonely-Planet/dp/1741040728/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1298922896&sr=8-9

recent article on walking the historical Kiso Road:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/A-Walk-Through-Old-Japan.html

island Yakushima is a great, albeit wet, place to hike

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Sandpiper
28/02/11 22:45
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I've climbed Yushan; did the 3 day route from Tatajia to Dongpu. We stayed in huts and probably shouldn't have... the manned hut was absolutely rammed with noisy people, and the unmanned huts were filthy. The hike itself was amazing though. There are a couple of longer (5+ days) routes I'd love to go back and do in the not too distant future.

barking-deer.com should give you some ideas for routes to take. I had hoped to have them assist with some of the logistics; getting to the Tataka trailhead was surprisingly awkward (we tagged along with a night-time tour from Alishan that went past the trailhead, and jumped out there) but BD stopped communicating before I got anything arranged. I was intending to pay them to obtain national park permits for me, but as it turned out that was vastly easier than some of the sources of information on the net might suggest!

hikingintaiwan.blogspot.com have a few trip reports, but I'm assuming you've found that blog already. hikingtaiwan.wordpress.com has lots of day trips, from recollection. My other half spent a little time in Japan, but they're not a big hiker. Might hassle them tomorrow.

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David
01/03/11 22:55
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Hi Thomas,

   The Kiso road and Yakushima look great.  I have the LP trekking guide and there are some great ideas for treks in there.

Serriadh,

   Thanks for your information.  Great to know it wasn't too complicated to arrange permits.  I'd bew interested if you still had the links!  Even though it is really busy, I thought I would still try and climb Yushan.  Looks like there are some good day trips from Taipei.

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David

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Sandpiper
02/03/11 08:25
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Whilst I remember... i-cjw.com has some awesome stuff in it for Japan; slightly more mountaineering than hiking, mind you.

Anyhoo. I think we got the Rough Guide to Taiwan which had the useful advice regarding permits. For Yushan, if you're prepared to spend half a day visiting the park office yourself you can sort it out with no problem.

Odd fact about Taiwan: most of the people don't seem to be very happy using maps. Trying to get people to tell us which train we should take to get to X was surprisingly hard, as the first few times we showed them the rail route map in our guide book and pointed to the place we wanted to go. Cue much frowning and rotating of maps and summoning over of co-workers who would repeat the process. The maps in touristy areas are rotated so the direction you're looking in is at the top, which also tricked me a few times. The national park map we got of Yushan was pretty ropey, and I think I'd suggest hunting around for some reasonable maps with fancy things like contours on them ahead of time.

I suspect transport will be the most awkward thing, as I believe it is tricky to hire vehicles there without having a Taiwanese driving license.

If you're climbing Yushan, take a tent!

The only outdoorsy shops are on a single road in Taipei (really; there's nothing in Taichung or Kaoshing for example... we searched!). We didn't take a stove of any kind, so I couldn't tell you what sort of gas canisters or liquid fuel (if any) they sold.

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otaku_steve
04/03/11 07:04
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Japan North Alps - beautiful but often crowded, plus a bit expensive to get to from Tokyo. Huts are rather expensive.

Japan Middle alps - not bad, easy access to peaks via a cable-car/ropeway

 Japan southern alps - Not as pretty as north alps but cheaper to get to, assuming there is actually a bus going to the particular part you want as not so popular. Huts cheaper but you get what you pay for...

 Mount Fuji - not much point unless you want the 'cachet' of saying you climbed the highest... Basically a big pile of gravel.

Yakushima - very far from Tokyo, must fly really and dont think there are any direct flights. Nice place though, and all the huts in the mountains are free. Can get really busy in peak season. Hokkaido is probably less busy but similarly far from Tokyo (but in opposite direction).

Basically you can find all this kind of stuff in your Lonely planet guide

 Generally wild camping is frowned upon/illegal in national parks unless there are no huts -  the only National park that I think you are allowed to wild camp in is up in Hokkaido - and that is really wild - think brown bears etc.

Best place for outdoors gear in Japan is probably Kanda/Jimbocho area of Tokyo - pretty much can get anything there though probably cost more than you are used to. Other than that check out a Montbell store - these are spread out around tokyo and other cities.

Eating out is generally quite reasonable/cheap in japan, but accomodation is often somewhat expensive. Transport varies - taxis are expensive but buses trains are quite ok - especially within cities (the intercity Shinkansen 'bullet' trains are rather expensive, though you can often get a local train on the same line for less than half the price but taking many more hours). UK drivers should have no problem adapting to Japan driving conditions, but not sure how easy it is to hire a car for foreigners (this is purely from a language barrier point of view, there is no  beaurocratic reason why you cant hire one). Speed limits are quite low but traffic can be quite busy in the cities - I wouldn't bother hiring a car in Tokyo. All the 'motorways' are toll roads - and the tolls are pretty damn high, but if you want to get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time then you have to grit your teeth and pay them.

Summer is really hot over here but not so bad up high (pretty bad in the cities though). Winter is mild and dry on east side (e.g. Tokyo) but involves metres of snow on west side. Snow shoes are essential for many 'hikes' during this period. Best time of year is probably spring and autumn, though can get typhoons coming from late summer to early autumn. Rainy season is around June in Tokyo so another reason to avoid summer.

Actually, if you have some specific questions then you can PM me - I may be able to help, or know someone who can.

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David
07/03/11 22:11
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Hi Steve,

   Thanks for that.  I will send a PM with more questions nearer to the date and when I finally get myself a bit more sorted!

David

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