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harry harry
14/03/11 19:30
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So here I am, planning where to go buy before that I have to get some equipement right? What would that be first? I don`t want to leave everything in the last minute because I always forget things, and if I don`t start it now I will never do it. So be precise of what I need to get? tent/new shoes/backpack/? Should I just buy a guide and follow that? Can someone make a list of the basic equipeent that is required. Thanks in advance.
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Mr Sworld
14/03/11 19:31
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There is a search function on this site. Try that first...

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Belgian_Hiker
14/03/11 19:38

Hi Harry

I guess many people will agree that the list is endless.....

The basics will depend on what you are planning to do, but will certainly contain the follow: Backpack, Tent, Sleeping bag, sleeping mat and a compass.

Also worth considering is some boots/shoes, non cotton trousers, rainproof jacket, stove.

From there the list goes on...

Consider the posts here to pick up some good second hand equipment and of course ebay.

You'll find no shortage of experienced advise here - Good luck !

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Simo
14/03/11 20:41
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If you're talking about just walking, then

*footwear (including decent socks-smartwool IMO )

*Waterproof jacket, keep your eye on web sales as you can often pick up a Goretex jacket for around £60. And make sure you wash and re-proof it.

* Map and compass and knowing how to use them.

These two/three things are the most important  to get you started,everything else will just add comfort.If youre not going far you can stash stuff in your pockets or any old pack will do for starters. You will soon get a feel for what else you will need like quick drying trousers or a pack that will take a hydration bladder.

Check the reviews on here for pottential gear, some like weight over function where price is concernerned so what suits some might not suit you.

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jonny dogood
14/03/11 21:00
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start from the inside....work your way out ie thermals socks etc...Happy walking!
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Mr Sandwich
18/03/11 13:05
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Easy...

Waterprood Jacket and Trousers, Map & Compass, Rucksack and good boots would be a good place to start, but it does depend what you are going to do and when.  Then build up your kit using b`days and chrimbo pressies.

If you can afford it go to an outdoors store and ask for help, they`ll soon get you kitted out.

Mr S

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Guy Hurst
21/03/11 21:32
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You probably don't need to buy everything if you're just hill walking at first. Basic fleeces from the high street do the job fine, a woollen hat and gloves ditto, and the polycotton trousers many folk have are good for summer walking.
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Kish Logan
22/03/11 00:11
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I think this is a great question.

 For me the essentials for walking are footwear and waterproofing. Much of my waterproofing comes from a cape I bought at Lidl for £5. Not perfect, but very very good. 

Most important thing is to avoid cotton as much as possible. It's great for what it does well but it's lethal outdoors in damp climates. 

The essentials for sleeping out are a sleeping bag and some sort of groundsheet/mat.  I'd slept out with this from Belfast to Kabul before I bought my first tent. (I myself prefer a closed-cell mat to an airbed, but not everyone does. Mind you, they're much lighter, and much cheaper.)

Since things have moved on, though, I'd suggest an alpkit bivi (which I don't have, but have heard good things about) or an Argos tent, if you want luxury. 

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twiglegs
22/03/11 01:36
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Mr Sworld wrote (see)

There is a search function on this site. Try that first...

Ignore him, he's the forums miserable bastard.
I can somewhat understand his response though, he was born all knowing, unlike us mere mortals who use a discussion site for errr..........discussion and advice.
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Zuma
22/03/11 08:12
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Yu must start out with some good fitting shoes (preferably waterproof or completly wateropen and quickdrying) suited for hill walking and second buy a guide of a route through the hills you want to walk and start with it. The rest of your kit follows naturally after your needs (got soaked (well you will want some rain gear), want to sleep in the open (well you need some sort of shelter and a bag) etc.

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Sandpiper
22/03/11 08:32
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Start with pants. The shops you visit afterwards will thank you for that.

But as for the rest... how long is a piece of string? How much are you willing to spend? What were you thinking of doing? Please don't answer this question like '50 quid, i want to go to the gobi desert and patagonia and everest and borneo and all the gear you recommend must be appropriate for all of those'

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NickNick
22/03/11 09:11
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Start with pants. The shops you visit afterwards will thank you for that.

LOL

Zuma wrote (see)

...second buy a guide of a route through the hills you want to walk and start with it.

Hmm, I'd also say a map and compass and the basic knowledge of how to use them together. Guide books are not uniformly well written and if you don't think like the writer does you may 'misplace' yourself in which case the guide book may not help.

Maybe look for a local walking/rambling group and tag along with them.

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Metric Kate
22/03/11 10:18

I agree with the 'footwear and waterproofs' people - though legs are far more forgiving of budget waterproofs than torsos.

NickNick's right that map + compass + knowledge is an excellent investment. When I started walking seriously 5 years ago I did what he suggests and went out on a few walks - organised by the Brecon Beacons National Park. After doing 3 or 4 of them I felt a very strong desire to go walking by myself, so went on a basic navigation course, and that opened up the hills for me.

Don't try to rush out and buy everything at once, if you get the bug you'll just end up replacing it fairly quickly with stuff that'll do the job better for you and your preferences.

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Fleegle
22/03/11 12:22
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An interesting variation of choices, but I think a combination of what NickNick and Mr Sandwich are worth considering. it would depend on exactly what you want to do, when and where.

If you are working within a tight budget, then visit the websites for stores like [b]Cotswold[/b], and [b]Go-outdoors[/b] and many more, see what offers they have that fall nicely within your budget.

Go-outdoors currently have some massive reductions on named gear, particularly end of season stock....

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captain paranoia
22/03/11 13:15

> So here I am, planning where to go buy before that I have to get some equipement right?

As others have said: it depends on what activity you want to do: walking, climbing, skiing, cycling, kayaking, etc...

But, as a starting point for clothing, you can't go wrong with a four (or five) layer system.

As for the other basic items for hillwalking, have a look at the list in this thread, if not the specific items.

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Peter Clinch
22/03/11 14:06
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Can someone make a list of the basic equipeent that is required

Required for what?

Many outdoor pursuits are incremental things where you start with small and work up.  What might be the first thing to do if you're wanting to go walking, for example, is take increasingly long strolls round the local country parks.  You don't actually need anything special to do that.  As you go further you'll start to find problems with everyday clothes, and where you find problems are the areas to address first.

Start off small and get experience that way.  Then use the experience to inform decisions.

I started off in the Scouts.  Special kit to start with was, errrrr, nothing.  Stuff like Captain Paranoia's four layer system don't need expensive fancy gear, it works fine with a vest, a shirt, a woolly pully and a pac-a-mac.  It works better and more comfortably if it's a Merino base-layer, a high performance mid-layer, a Primaloft insulation layer and a Goretex Pro-shell jacke, but the first option still works and costs roughly £500 less.

The key things required are whatever keeps you safe.  That's usually warm enough and in control of where you're going.  Beyond that it's just fine tuning.

Pete.

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captain paranoia
22/03/11 17:41

> Stuff like Captain Paranoia's four layer system don't need expensive fancy gear

Absolutely; all that is needed is a system that's reasonably versatile to cope with conditions and activity.  And all you gain by spending more money on increasingly specialised stuff is a bit more comfort and closer fit-for-purpose to the activity in hand.

A friend of mine recently bought a shootist's jacket.  Whilst you might think that any old jacket would do for prone shooting, it seems that the perfect shootist's jacket has very specialised features that make it perfect for shooting (i.e. it's almost a straight-jacket to hold the body very still and stable), but not so good for anything else (like being able to do the jacket up without someone else helping, for instance...)

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harry harry
30/03/11 01:01
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wow I didn`t expect so many answers. Thanks a lot for that. I am asking equipement basicly for walking and camping in any place in england.
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Glyn
30/03/11 07:10
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There is a search function on this site. Try that first...

that's what I like about OM - people go out of their way to be really helpful.

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NickNick
30/03/11 07:47
NickNick wrote (see)

You'll need to take:

Something to wear

Something to keep you dry

Something to keep you warm

A sleeping bag

something to sleep on for warmth and comfort

Somethng to sleep in, tent, bivvy, bothy etc

Something to eat

someting to warm it in/eat it our of

Something to warm it with

something to eat it with

something to drink

something to drink it from

Something to carry your gear in

A map and compass and the knowledge to use them

Something to patch yourself up with?

HTH
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