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Kckbxr86
27/09/11 01:14
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Hi there,

I hope someone has an answer for me.

I've been walking for a while, but only minor stuff so I haven't purchased a lot of specific clothing. I tend to stick to National Trust properties, rather than full on hikes. But I would like to venture out a bit more. So I started looking for the clothing in particular. The rest I can get as and when, but I wanted a reliable outfit. My problem is I'm 5'11, but need a 35"-36" inside leg. I've searched the high street shops and Long is usually 32"-33" in the womens range. So I went onto the Craghoppers website ... their size guide says an XL length for women is 35". I thought marvellous ... I selected the womens range, trousers & crops subcategory ... and not one of the designs comes in an XL leg length. I've tried mens XL and they are fine length wise, but completely the wrong shape (stating the obvious I know, but it was worth a shot)!

If anyone has come across any please let me know. Any price, even if it means buying 1 pair and using them till they fall apart at the seams!

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Sandpiper
27/09/11 08:22
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36"? Seriously? Gosh. I think that puts you sufficiently far from the average that I'd be quite startled if you found anywhere that had anything off-the-shelf that would fit you. A quick peek at the usual suspects suggests that 35"-36" is only for XXL men. Haglofs claim to provide women's trews in a long leg length that might fit you, but I expect you'd have to ask them if such a product exists in real life.

You may well have to have something tailored to you... I can't think of many places that might do a good job of that. Cioch Direct have something you can order online for under £100, but I don't know if anyone has any experience of their non-waterproofy things. I expect there are other similar companies.

Maybe there are places in, eg, the Netherlands which cater to taller women. There are probably one or two OM posters based there who'd have some idea.

Now I'll go and have a think about whether I should feel insecure about my stumpy little 30-32" inseam legs, or relieved that I can easily get clothes off the peg that fit me!

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Nick P 10
27/09/11 08:50
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Hi, yes, I am familar with this problem as a man as well! We acutally had a thread about close for tall people recently on here.

For trousers in the right length try Fjallraven Karla Trousers. They come in "raw length" so you can set the length yourself. For a 36' inside leg though you are looking at a size 40-42 (88-92cm; 34.6-36.2 in). There is a size guide tab at the bottom of the page you can have a look at. It is all in CM though Handy converter

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Mrs. Nesbit
27/09/11 08:58
Serriadh wrote (see)

You may well have to have something tailored to you... I can't think of many places that might do a good job of that.

Not outdoor specific places, certainly, but any tailor could make a pair of trews for you if you supplied the 'technical' fabric. Lots of places sell various suitable fabrics by the metre.
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Sandpiper
27/09/11 09:11
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Mrs. Nesbit wrote (see)
Not outdoor specific places, certainly, but any tailor could make a pair of trews for you if you supplied the 'technical' fabric. Lots of places sell various suitable fabrics by the metre.

Indeedy. Shelby.fi sell all sorts of good fabrics, though you may have to compromise on colours as their restocking intervals seem very long. They sell patterns too, but the female fit trews have the usual 30-32" inseam for all sizes.

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Man on stilts
27/09/11 09:43
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Another man with similar problems (38" inside leg) hence my name on this site.

Try Cioch (linked above) for custom made. Or Hilltrek for (almost) off the shelf stuff - I think they manufacture in batches of one as the orders come in. I've never tried the Cioch non-waterproof trousers although I have waterproofs and they are excellent. I have bought trousers from Hilltrek, and intend to do so again.

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Roos Eisma 2
27/09/11 09:55

Not particularly useful for outdoor trousers, but for general wear:

http://www.longtallsally.com/

Trousers and jeans up to 38"

(the only sportswear are yoga pants)

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Martin Carpenter
27/09/11 09:58

Tailoring I'd say very reccomendable here. Even if raw length stuff does get the length right, I rather doubt if it is going to get the rest of the fit right. From my experience Cioch are very good tailors in terms of the fit/features you want in outdoors clothing etc.

In terms of what you're describing I'd think their trek and travel ones very reccomendable. Basically very sensible, wind resistant, fast drying nylon canvas. Also very tough and entirely wearable for weekends etc. They're what I use for such purposes.

Hilltrek in ventile probably relatively similar in practice (not tried those), but tightly woven cotton instead.

About waterproof over trousers, hill trek do some tailored ones at a decent price. I've always been happy letting my lower leg go a bit mind.

Other more technical bits: Ciochs Paramo (for winter etc)  and Buffalo can do specials in various styles: very light, light soft shell, a little warmer. The tailoring for Buffalo maybe not as sophisticated as Cioch, or I'd think Hilltrek, although it has worked out fine for me.

Oh, don't know your arm length, but if anything like your inside leg it could be well worth considering tailoring for jackets etc.

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Roos Eisma 2
27/09/11 10:18

Haglofs do a long version but the problem may be to find someone who stocks it:

 http://www.climbers-shop.com/256699/products/haglofs_rugged_mountain_pant.aspx

(they seem to stock the regular version, but can perhaps order in the long. various other palces stock the men's version in long, so one of them should be able to get the women's long version you'd think)

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Nick P 10
27/09/11 10:26
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Most good shops will order in a size they don't have if you ask them
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TP
27/09/11 10:38

I'm 6'5", slim-ish with a long leg myself and my suggestion is when you find something tht is right (or close enough as you will probably have to compromise a little) then get more than one of them in case they change the fit or stop selling them!! Seriously do that.

Another thing is some makers have dodgy sizing. Keela is one of them. I went into a little shop that sold Keela in sheer desparation and tried a pair of what turned out to be quite good softshell trousers (all stretchy and looking good too). They were perfect length and waist and not too wide in the leg too. Also only £30 at SRRP!! I wore them out and went back to try another pair on and they no longer fitted. The retailer got more in for me as he said every so often one comes in with extra leg length despite it having a normal label to it. At the time They had two trousers in with this longer leg so I should have got the other one too.

Fjallraven do unfinished leg length as someone said but it is polycotton so is not as good as synthetic IMHO. Longer to dry I reckon. Good make and well made.

Lowe Alpine (if they ever make and sell again soon) used to do the occasional longer leg length too.

Haglofs pretty rugged pants are mucho money but are really long. I mean they are made for Scandianvians so certainly fit me. If only I could afford them.

Other than them I think it is CIoch and other custom mades.

I got a Rab in a larger wait that had long enough legs but the waist is held in a lot with a belt. Looks a little baggy unfortunately but was better than spending a winter walking in shorts. A week later we got those October snows. I had been wlaking in shorts into October as my other trews were all worn out. Shorts in Autumn is bad enough but Winter!!!

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Nick P 10
27/09/11 10:44
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Fjallraven do unfinished leg length as someone said but it is polycotton so is not as good as synthetic IMHO. Longer to dry I reckon. Good make and well made.
LiL - My Fjallraven trousers dry from soaked in about an hour on the hill... that is pretty good I think. They dry so quickly that when there is a chance of showers I don't take waterproof trousers because they will dry quickly enough if they do get wet. I am no expert on the materials so I cannot say why they dry so quickly. I think they are brilliant. Even have a pocket big enough for an OS map
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TP
27/09/11 10:45
Second the CLimbers shop. When I was looking aroudn for a second pair of longer trews they suggested the haglof ones. They had the long leg length ones for men at least. Didn't look at the women's of course so they might not have them. Will order specially though but once tried it with them and they tried to charge me £25 just to process the order!!
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TP
27/09/11 10:48

Have you used the wax stuff on them Nick? I've had polycotton with DWR  on them before now and they take time. My synthetic are comfortable in 5 minutes and dry in a lot less than half an hour from soaked if worn. On a cold, wet day where you get soaked even wearing over trousers the faster they dry the better and poly cotton more often is slower drying than synthetics.

5.11 tactical do longer leg length but completely cotton though so perhaps not good enough.

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Nick P 10
27/09/11 10:49
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Really!? That's terrible! I have used Tamarack Outdoors a fair amount and they have always had to order in sizes for me and no extra cost! Shame on Climbers Shop! I was really quite impressed with them up till now
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Nick P 10
27/09/11 10:52
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Lost in Lancashire wrote (see)

Have you used the wax stuff on them Nick? I've had polycotton with DWR  on them before now and they take time. My synthetic are comfortable in 5 minutes and dry in a lot less than half an hour from soaked if worn. On a cold, wet day where you get soaked even wearing over trousers the faster they dry the better and poly cotton more often is slower drying than synthetics.

Wow! I am VERY impressed, I thought an hour was good! I have used the wax but I didn't think it was worth the effort. It takes ages to do a good job with it and it only really keeps out short light showers. As soon as it becomes quite sustained it makes no difference. Since I thought they dried pretty quick I havent bothered again.

Well, drying time aside, I am still very pleased and impressed wih the Fjallraven stuff. Good quality and very durable (and easy to mend if you do damage them)... pity about the drying time

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TP
27/09/11 10:57
1 hour is good for polycotton and I agree the trews are among the best out there for durability and design. Shame they don't do a synthetic version. Of course they are Scandinavian and made for use over there so AFAIK Norway at least gets plenty of rain at times of the year so I'd agree they are suitable wet weather, hill use trews. I am just really into my Rab softshell trousers. They have a tight outer and a kind of texturised inner hence the rapid comfort and drying. I kind of think they work like paramo pumping water out from your skin. With the DWR it takes a fair amount to wet out completely too. Or did before I used them so much they are worn out, especially the DWR.
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Nick P 10
27/09/11 11:05
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I have only discovered the joys of Softshell last year and bought myself a pair of Mammut BaseJump Advanced this summer... I find them a bit too hot though in the summer! Softshell is the best thing around though. With DWR they are the right thing to wear 8 out of 10 times in the UK
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captain paranoia
27/09/11 12:59
Go Dutch or Swedish; two countries with average heights well above the UK.
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