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Does anyone know how to stick a cloth badge to Gore-tex?
 
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Does anyone know how to stick a cloth badge to Gore-tex?
Nothing seems to want to stick to the jacket!
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Ken Applegate
12/11/11 14:47
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I'm trying to stick a cloth badge onto a gore-tex jacket, and have tried a purpose fabric glue (which claims to stick to nylon, but doesn't stick to gore-tex) and Seam Grip, which has soaked through a bagde, and left 'damp' marks on the badge.

 Has anyone any experience of trying this?  I was thinking of trying something like wonder web(iron activated adhesive).

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GOF
12/11/11 15:23

why do it at all?

The problem wont be the goretex or the nylon face of the goretex, but the solvent carrying the glue - if you have an effective DWR and the glue is water based (most are these days) then the DWR will just shed the glue like so much rain.

You have a choice - strip the DWR so the water based adhesive can bond - but I wouldnt do that as you will need to use either a very strong detergent or dry clean the garment therefore knacker the gortex membrane or use a solvent based adhesive which may "melt" the nylon and, in anycase, will knacker the DWR/goretex under the badge.

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Zuma
12/11/11 15:38
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Best method is bringing your jacket to an outdoorshop. Give them the order to sow the badge on your jacket and at the back of the punctures must be taped professional like the do with holes in a jacket due to damages. this is the best method.

second best is agian sowing the badge yourself to the jacket and at the back over the punctures just put a patch of Tear Aid. the tear aid comes loose in due time it's on goretex primarly an emergency repair tape. But it lasts reasonably long for an emergency tape.
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Explorer
12/11/11 16:36
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Attaching a badge to the jacket risks compromising its waterproofness and in all likelihood will void any warranty. Many jackets, like Mountain Equipment, just use a transfer type badge - could that be an alternative?
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Peter Clinch
12/11/11 17:05
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Or stick it on a mid-layer.  That seems to be standard practice for the local Ranger services here.
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Ken Applegate
12/11/11 17:13
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I've got a jacket that is already branded (embroidered) by a previous employer, and thought that I could stick a cloth badge over the top.  Warranty etc. is not really an issue.

I had a look into transfers, but again, struggle to find anything for sale on-line that would do the job.

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Peter Clinch
12/11/11 17:21
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if you're trying to stick it to a bit of embroidery I imagine that's all part of the problem.  Contact adhesives will almost certainly work better when you've got something smooth to stick against.  Otherwise the glue just gets pushed in to the embroidery weave.

I was slightly puzzled why the fabric glue didn't work, since "Goretex" will be nylon at the outside face (possibly polyester, but usually nylon), but this would go some way to explaining it.

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Zuma
12/11/11 18:28
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Well my advise is based on experience with a puncture in my first Goretex jacket from Mammut. The puncture was on the height of my breast. The outdoorshop said it could be repaired by a patch on the inside at the back of the puncture. The puncture would be still there seen on the outside. When I asked them if it was possible to make a label of mammut on the outside they said sure. So a label was sowed on the outside of the jacket and in the inside a special goretex patch was attached under pressure. never had any problems with that repair.
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Mr Justice
12/11/11 20:00
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If I were doing this I'd use a strong contact adhesive.  Wickes do a good one.  IME it doesn't melt nylon, but test it on some scrap nylon thing first.  You have to be very careful because you get only one chance with positioning.    

But I wouldn't be doing this.  Because the badge is likely to fade, get irretrievably dirty, suffer abrasion and acquire loose embroidery threads well before the jacket reaches the end of its life.  There'd be a mess on my jacket.  Forever.  Unless I applied petrol or possibly acetone to get it off and I'm not doing that.

A permanent marker, as near the garment colour as you can get, could  be used to obscure the former employer's logo to some extent.  In that case go easy so you don't get too much solvent penetrating the face fabric and risking some delamination of the membrane. 

I suppose that using a permanent marker would make the jacket look a bit like a van that's had the previous owner's stick-on lettering removed - discernible in close-up, not at a distance.

What's so bad about sporting your former employer's name on your jacket anyway?  Was it the Italian finance ministry? "City of Edinburgh Traffic Warden"?  "4 x 4 Owners Club"?  (Insert folk-devil of your choice.)

 

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GOF
12/11/11 20:21

Or do what I did in a similar case.  Stick some gaffer tape over the top - looks like you've ripped the jacket and repaired it for sure, but job done.

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Mal Mawr
12/11/11 21:44
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Buy some GoreTex repair patches and have a mess about with them first, I'd try silicone sealant.
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waldo
12/11/11 21:55
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The adhesive used for cycle innertube patches I find works on most things,but I always do a test piece first. Even worked on tent
floor base. Cheers.
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Franco Darioli
12/11/11 23:50
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I seam sealed several Bibler tents (made with PTFE ) using Seal Net (shipped with the tent).
That of course does stick to it so I would imagine that it works for your purpose too.
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Explorer
13/11/11 19:42
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Fabric shops sell a strong glue which I've used before to bond fabrics, although not on waterproofs. If you do so it on, you could waterproof the seams using a seam sealer of the type normally used on tents.
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Franco Darioli
14/11/11 13:36
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I meant Seam Grip by McNett...
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SuziQ
14/11/11 14:42
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I would hand stitch the badge over the top with some light antiwick thread. Making sure the Badge covered all the messing about with chemicals & stitching into 'clean' fabric.

Thread will seal it's self as long as you use the correct size needle.

IF it leaks apply a small amount of fabsil type product to the badge & just over the stitches.

 If you can get that section of the jacket under a sewing machine, get someone to sew a satin stitch all round the badge & coat/spray the back with waterproofer.

Suzi

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captain paranoia
14/11/11 18:46

If you're simply trying to cover up an embroidered logo, then gaffer tape...

Or iron-on seam seal tape.

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chris Broughton
05/01/12 23:47
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I got a gortex jacket from my job. Somebody embroidered a logo on it. Now it is leaking. What can be done.    John

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GOF
06/01/12 09:26

seam seal - or a goretex patch on the back.

Is it actually leaking through the embroidery?

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