 The solution is to have the same access laws as here in Scotland. If you open up the whole country, then you will hopefully reduce the honey-pot effect that presently causes problems.
Well, up to a point. There's an awful lot of England that is jolly dull.
yes, anything east of offas dyke and south of the lake district 
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 Thx for the tips. They need new soles so I'll get that done first. If I've still got a squeak I'll try the limping, waxing amd vaseline!
Wow, so much vitriol and anger. What a bunch of whingers. Incredible to think all these people go to the forest to relax! lol  If only I could find a way to turn all that anger into energy and feed it into the National Grid, I could make a fortune.
Has the vaseline worked?
Ha, checking up on me eh! Despite constant use the vaseline proved useless, the sheep could always here me coming  , so had to consign the offending boots to the great fell in the sky.
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 Mick Dray wrote: 'Commoners Defence Association....English Defence League. God help any black cyclists' Wow, Godwin's Law after only 18 posts - is this a record? Moonlight Shadow wrote: 'Imagine, being in your huge 4wd truck with your family around you, driving at a steady 50mph on a small lane like you damn right can because you pay your "road tax" and coming face to face with CYCLISTS. Imagine the terror of the little'uns at the back, your wife screaming in anguish and you feel the blood boiling in your veins. How dare that vermin threaten your family like that.......Ban them!.' One problem, Moonlight - your 4x4 driver is nothing but a 'straw man'. The complaints about the behaviour of some cyclists in the New Forest were not raised by 4x4 drivers, but by people who live and graze animals in the forest and have a perfect right to express their concerns. See http://www.nfcda.co.uk/
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 I'm sure you'd never read complaints about cyclists on motorvehicles drivers forums, oh no...
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Black sailor I bet there's nothing common about the `Commoners Defence Association'
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See
http://www.prweb.com/releases/truck-insurance/accident-camera/prweb8592980.htm
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 Richard, what's your point in supplying these links?
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 Richard, what's your point in supplying these links? To summarise: everyone who might use the same land as recreational 4x4 drivers is stupid, dangerous, irresponsible and destructive. Therefore, to discriminate against recreational 4x4 drivers because they have those same qualities is unfair and unreasonable. I think that's the gist of it.
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 ... One problem, Moonlight - your 4x4 driver is nothing but a 'straw man'. The complaints about the behaviour of some cyclists in the New Forest were not raised by 4x4 drivers, but by people who live and graze animals in the forest and have a perfect right to express their concerns. See http://www.nfcda.co.uk/ Another problem is that this whole thread is something of a straw man, too. It was started as an extension of the argument about the rights and wrongs of 4x4 drivers' cruising of ancient country byways. How it underpins the arguments of the pro 4x4 camp is difficult to grasp seeing that it is unconnected and so completely irrelevant.
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No, I was just trying to point out that even groups who don't use internal combustion engines appear to cause 'problems' for some in National Parks.
I don't own a 4x4, and probably wouldn't green lane it if I did unless I was taking a disabled relative out for a day in the country.
I do own a brace of trail bikes and occasionally green lane them (hence my involvement with the TRF) although in recent years I've probably done more on them at horse trials and endurance events, and I've got a mountain bike too.
But I use my walking boots more than I use anything else.
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I take OP's point, and understand why it was made. However, it's important to recognise that the New Forest is not any old national park (indeed, I have a feeling that it hasn't been a national park for very long). The New Forest is first and foremost an area of common grazing land, on which local people ('commoners') have had grazing rights going back to the Middle Ages.
Mick Dray writes 'I bet there's nothing common about the `Commoners Defence Association', and it's true that some local houses with grazing rights have been sold to incomers or even second home owners. But there are still many local people, the descendants of generations of commoners, who graze ponies and cattle in the Forest, and they are the people who make up most of the CDA.
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You seem to be a half-decent chap Richard, after all
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Seriously, it's been nice coming onto a forum where points of view can be debated without degeneration into insults etc.
I find irresponsible use of green lanes and illegal off-roading even more annoying than you do: to you it's just a nuisance, to me it's not just a nuisance, it's another nail in the coffin of a hobby that I enjoy.
I try to make a point of stopping and talking to people I meet when out on my bikes, and 99 per cent of them are perfectly friendly: even say things like 'that looks like fun".
The 1 per cent?
They've probably just been buzzed by what we call: "A tosser on a 'crosser"
which translates as an idiot on a (probably stolen) machine built for closed course competition purposes.
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Two-wheeled terrorists in a National Park. Are you a headline writer for NoTW or something?! FORMER headline writer for NoTW surely?! 
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