 Jon should get you to write an article for om on your stove museum!
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Rosswm - your 3 cup AGG pot is 106g? Mine is only 96g with lid weighed on my mates Royal Mail scales. Still can't get down to 104g complete. Personally I'm lazy so I either use my gas stove or my WBS stove if it's not too cold. I don't rate the WBS in cold as it has too much metal to heat up in the cold. Keep meaning to try a cone, probably a keg setup but no intentions to make a flissure or clone. I enjoy my fingers without cuts on them. I have made can stoves before now and plasters are the second most important ingredient for me when making them. I'm now with Kate on this, totally lost interest in stoves. If the kit you have works why bother getting too obsessed about saving the odd hundred grams with a meths?? I think I am on close to 200 to 250g for my kit and it has always worked so I'm happy enough and have lost the interest in improving on this. I do like reading about your obsessions though. Being a reformed gear freak it is probably not wise but I am still interested.
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 I'm actually with you on that LL - I'm only curious but have no intention of buying anything new for my outfit to save weight while it's still doing the job. I may make a new cone with existing materials though so I can use a Ti mug I already own - then I can brew up while eating out of my pan but knowing myself I'll likely not get around to it! Although I have a mod in mind which may mean I don't have to. I hope my scales are wrong - means all my gears lighter than I thought! Backpacking is my 'first-love' hobby-wise but the vintage stoves is my 'at home' hobby & keeps me out of trouble! Has also provided some vintage alcohol stoves from the 30's I may incorporate into a killer retro/bleeding edge combo!
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I think the 106g is the published weight from AGG website but I think I got a lighter one. Not unusual to have variation in weights during production of anything. I'd love to get more gear (notice I said get not make) but wiith finite funds I prioritise on what I need not want. Well at least what I want more as I really think I don't actually NEED anything now. BTW I have just counted the number of fleeces I have, from memory it came out at 12 but I suspect if I actually looked it would be more. That has been a mixture of progression in my knowledge of what works for me and relatives who stuck for present ideas just buy me another fleece from craghoppers or somewhere as they know I like walking. I've got a few microfleeces that I wear on cold days when pottering around locally but on the hills it's more technical stuff. Nothing wrong with hobbies and they all need kit. Collecting stuff has been part of our nature from kids so why not carry on into adulthood with that tendancy??
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 Got zero interest in all that stove fetichism despite being a man (honest) but I'd love to know more about your collection Rossvm, get that article ready! 
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.JPG) Got zero interest in all that stove fetichism despite being a man (honest) but I'd love to know more about your collection Rossvm, get that article ready!  that don't make sense
the AGG 3 cup pot 'rocks' apart from the 'heavy' lid and the fact that you need a pan grab....
(I have 2 of em plus the larger '2 quart pot' which isn't 2 quarts)
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We'll be discussing the pros and cons of red deer vs reindeer hide for breathableclothing next, and whether Neolithic stone tools were a real improvement over Mesolithic microlith compound tools...
Please no, I've got colleagues who could wiffle on for days about these sorts of things. If it's got 'lithic' in the title, it's way too early for me!
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 You have to be sad to get to 104g
A EN600W sans lid and with one handle. Ti cone. Matches. Pet storage case. Two 6g shepherds hook pegs for wood are dual use. Only used for bigger trips. To be honest the weight savings are so minimal it's not worth it 
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 Rosswm, So you're Spiritburner. Why didn't you say? Actually, didn't you used to post as Spiritburner? Ah, checks old thread: yes, you did... It's a great website.
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 > If it's got 'lithic' in the title, it's way too early for me! If it's written down, it's way too late for me...
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.JPG) You have to be sad to get to 104g
A EN600W sans lid and with one handle. Ti cone. Matches. Pet storage case. Two 6g shepherds hook pegs for wood are dual use.
Was wondering how you did that, seeing as the pan n lid are 95g just for starters To be honest the weight savings are so minimal it's not worth it 
I'd concur with that. you'd need dry tinder/kindling/(weather?) all the way and possibly a knife for preparing tinder
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.JPG) > [StarLyte is] lightable out of the wind I confess that I just put the burner in the clone, and stick the head of a piezo lighter in it. I've always lit my meths burners this way, and never burnt myself; meths starts off in a very lazy way so you have plenty of time to remove your hand before the flame gets hot enough to burn you.
Maybe you misunderststand my meaning - I've found when it's quite windy (as it often seems to be when I go out) even with the cone, and in a tent porch, that getting the cold meths to light first time on any stove is never guaranteed. The starlyte can be held and lighted out of any breeze, carried when alight (before it warms up) and dropped inside the cone. This suits me as I oftenfind myself camping on tussocky stuff where there is only just one goodspot for the cone.
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 Rosswm, So you're Spiritburner. Why didn't you say? Actually, didn't you used to post as Spiritburner? Ah, checks old thread: yes, you did... It's a great website.
T'is I - thanks Captain! I stopped using that handle on other sites as it is so linked to CCS that folk actually use Spiritburner as a search term to find the site & then come across my bletherings here & elsewhere! Who make the EN600W? My google search brought up lightbulbs! 
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 Sorry Spirit - my sthnd for Evernew... http://www.antigravitygear.com/evernew-titanium-ultra-light-600ml-pot-eca251.html Heather burns whatever the weather Mole 
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 That's a mug not a pot! Maybe my expanding waistline would thank me for a pot that small!
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 You could boil several missionaries in a cauldron that size fatso 
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 Would that be holymeal?
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oops wron place 
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Mole - with the AGG pot you can use a mini trangia pot grab which is a bent strip of spring steel I think. It goes up into the lip a little and can get slightly stuck but it weighs next to nothing really. Well it came with my £10 mini trangia clone, don't know if the real trangia version is the same. Lid can me two layers of foil from a baking tray. I got two large packs for the price of one due toa counting error at the till = 49p IIRC so lots of foil to play with making lids. It is a solid lid with the AGG pot. The pot itself looks like it would fold if you stood on it. I nearly have many a time too. Off to google spiritburner to read Ross's other blethrings. He seems to make sense about things.
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