 Could someone please explain what the main differences/pros/cons of the velez trews over the cascada trews is for bimbling around in winter. At first glance neither appear to make a good fashion statement, the velez are a bit lighter but (even) more expensive. Thankyou.
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 This isn't a direct help - but I got a pair of Quito trousers - much tighter fit than my cascadia, very funky opening so you can take them off without lifting your feet off the ground! P
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 velez look like they will rip to bits. cascada's are pretty good, just alittle too baggy.
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 The Velez have the lighter material around the ankles, on the back from the knees down, around the waist and over the front pockets, with the rest being the same material as the Cascadas. I've had them since they came out about 2 years ago and don't see them as being much more vulnerable in the real world than the Cascadas I had for years before that. I would say they're definitely a bit less warm than the Cascadas and are obviously a neater design, but would probably advise going for the Cascadas due to the lower price, longer zips giving more venting if necessary and greater size range. I doubt if anyone can tell the weight difference when they're wearing them, so that's not really important. I still haven't seen the Quitos in the flesh, and although they sound ideal with the full length zips and even lower weight, there are some iffy comments about styling, so I'd need to get my hands on them to see what the difference with the Cascadas is.
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cascada panys all the way in winter for me fantastic pants and least well got 9 yrs out of first pair,then gave them to brother who had the very lerge rip repaired by paramo for £35 and is now wearing them in canada..im out once a wk in lakes so they need to be tough and work to last...not sure on diff betwwen both types of trousers..
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 the velez trews were introduced to compliment the velez adventure light jacket. the design is slightly better than the cascada in that they are not quite so baggy but, and it's only my theory, the telling design point is why did they not use the light fabric everywhere e.g. the front of the thighs. wear areas don't wash. i firmly believe that they used the normal weight fabric in areas like this because the light fabric leaked too much at these wetting out areas. this mixture of fabrics just lead to a mish mash look and lots of quite pointless seams. the "new" quito trews are lightweight fabric all over. so why didn't they make the velez lightweight all over. the quito are designed for high activity and so you're unlikely to notice if they leak a bit. oh, by leak i mean leak after sustained rain. these trews are warm in a nice way. the casacdas score the decision for me for their full length side zips for superior ventilation which i have used on many an occassion when getting a bit warm uphill. warmth, windproof, waterproof, comfortable and immensely flexible with the ventilation. and warm knees!
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Cheers all. I think the Cascadas win, cheaper and work well. I might get a pair. The obvious question for Paramo would be why not just adjust the cut of the Cascadas to reduce flappiness?
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Cheers all. I think the Cascadas win, cheaper and work well. I might get a pair. The obvious question for Paramo would be why not just adjust the cut of the Cascadas to reduce flappiness?
Well there is no stretch, I suppose they could articulate the knees. On the plus side they should last... mine have been going strong since 1992, when I thought they were a *bit* pricy, but probably worth it, given that they get heavy use - less so now that I've discovered pertex windproofs.
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I think the Velez trews feel a bit cooler than the Cascadas, though still too warm for use in summer, at least for me. On a few really cold and windy days my legs have got a bit chilled when wearing them, but I just put a pair of Montane pertex trousers over the top of them and that sorted the problem. The relative lack of flap is a big plus for me.
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 I've had my Cascadas for about a month now and have worn them a lot; the coldest day lingered between -7C and -4C. They were very comfortable. Today it rained most of the day; not a downpour but very steady for about 5 hours--stayed bone dry and comfortable. The temp was pretty steady at around 3C. So far so good---really like them---no issues thus far. Having had several different pair of waterproof trousers over the years I find the Cascadas to be my favorite so far. The breathability of them far surpasses anything I've owned before which, for me, seals the deal.
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 My original Cascada's were too long & too baggy. As they are not taped seam waterproofs I cut the bottom off, sacrificing the press-studs. With the bottom cut off you can then turn them proper inside out - both outer fabric & lining, ending with 4 'legs' joined at the waist. Doing this I ran a new seam up the inside leg of both fabrics then redid the bottom leg hem.
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I love the Paramo viento zip offs. Same idea as the cascada but more stylish and less 'flappy'! They are now discontinued but the Paramo store on e-bay are still selling them. I bought 2 replacement pairs as I think they are the best winter troosers around! Zip off bit is a bit pointless for me but did zip off once for a river crossing!
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 Don't Paramo garments need to be baggy? Heavy rain would be forced through if the fabric was tight on the legs. Much as it does if you kneel or sit on wet ground.
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