 I`m looking for a new tent for me and my girlfriend. I want it to be approx 2KG, pretty stable and roomy. The Scarp 2 was mentioned online when I was reading through reviews and after a few youtube videos, I`m interested. Is there a UK distributor where I can take a look at one? Has anybody got any good or bad points to share about this tent? Cheers
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| Edited: 08/01/12 20:43 |
Haha Andy it's zesty_al I'll have a read through that thread cheers 
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 I knows you know Figured I'd reply on here as well, just in case anyone else wanted to see the answer.
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 It's hard to be sure without having one in the flesh, but what really put me off was the apparent depth of the porches. As far as I can tell from diagrams and pictures they're 50 cm or less from inner to pole foot, and being a bit of a porch-whore I Want More. Beyond that, on paper at least I can't really fault it. Pete.
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Pete, May be worth posting a question on the owners thread, to get the real world depth of the porc. I know in my Scarp1 it's big enough to cook in (with the door open of course).
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 I want it to be approx 2KG
Does that rule out any lighter tents? pretty stable
Is that an 'I don't like tunnel tents' comment? The Scarp has had lots of people saying nice things about how well it holds up in strong wind, but there are alternatives with more poles that you could consider if you were that way inclined. The MSR Hubba Hubba HP probably fits your requirements, and I believe it has actual retailers in the UK. Decent headroom, two door, two porch, quick to pitch, can be done outer first. There are a handful of other things like the Marmot Grid 2, Mountain Equipment Dragonfly (there's a big porch version), Vaude Power Odysee, etc which are all semi-geodesic, outer first/simultaneous pitch tents, though they're all 1 door, 1 porch jobs. Also have a look at some of Exped's tents. They use a slightly unconventional geometry and they aren't necessarily the lightest for their space but they would appear to be pretty stable and have things like a pair of freestanding porches.
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 With the 'One' I barely use the porches - most stuff can happily live in the inner. But porches are easily big enough to 'cook'/stow boots and bits.... And if worried about cooking space easy enough to peg back the inner.
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And if worried about cooking space easy enough to peg back the inner. But what if there's someone else in the other half of the inner... if I've moved back a foot that's not exactly much good to them! If both want to sit up at once one is pretty much stuck with the pole-axis to get the headroom, and while Roos & I are not enormous we don't do "petite" either. We have a Hubba Hubba HP now to address this issue (picked up second hand at a good price). I'd prefer something that pitches all in one or fly-first with an easily detachable inner but if I'm paying more to replace a merely good tent I want something that ticks all the boxes, including porch depth. Pete.
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I was talking about the One you inattentive cloth-eared pedant
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Silly me, thinking that a thread about the S2 would invite comment about that model... 
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Sigh  The clue was the 'One' bit...never mind.. Alan; the BPL USA review of the Scarp 2 is good if you have access....if you don't - PM me..
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.JPG) I don't know how much room other folk need to cook, but had 2 of us in the Scarp 1 in a hoolie, and I managed to cook safely with the door closed. (I'm 6' and my missus is 5'10") That was on gas - a caldera cone would have been even safer IMO). Also, I didn't need to pull back the inner floor to make any more space. And, I have a reputation for being a clumsy oaf
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There is a difference between "can do if needed" and "think is reasonably optimised for routine use". It's not just cooking, I like space for easy access to stuff. Half a meter or less in a porch ain't my idea of it. That's not a particular criticism of the tent, just a note for the OP that if he likes big porches too it does appear that the S2 doesn't particularly posess them. Pete.
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 I've been looking at Tarptent recently, reviews, mine a different need but from the OP's needs what about the Stratospire2? 33"deep porches at deepest, both sides of sleepers. Looks a lot of room for 1.1Kg (add a little if you're not using hiking poles). Its 2-3 room and 3-4 seasons. I doubt its as stable as the Scarp2 due to higher (collecting more wind) and I guess that unsupported inter-pole distance could flap a fair bit? Check it out at least....
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I'm always open to other offers. I do like a porch as I use a TN ultra quasar, doesn't have to be a huge one but I don't fancy a tiny one.
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Some perspective here: I don't like Quasars because I think the porches are too small, so if you think those are fine you might want to ignore my problems with the Scarp 2's.
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AlanThe Scarp 2 has a lot of usable space inside. The Scarp 1 is about the size of a Laser, the 2 is wider and taller.The vestibules are 48cm deep, however because the pole curves outwards they are functionally larger than some linearly deeper ones .(visualise this ( compared to this /)I shot a clip showing the interior space. When you see me sitting inside with the floor pulled back (fiddling with the Jetboil) I have two standard 50cm mats laying flat on the floor , so another person can comfortably sit in there behind me) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCGp9MVDoNk&list=UU0PuLUKvG7Fxxex5BMVK4vw&index=9&feature=plcpScarp 2 /Hubba Hubba : Franco franco@tarptent.com
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Nice post Franco cheers for that! Peter, the porch in the quasar isn`t exactly big I know but we put the rucksacks in 1 and cook in the other. If I was spending long periods of time in the tent in bad weather then I`d look for a larger porch for sure but we only tend to spend the night in it so aslong as there`s storage and safe cooking space, I`m happy.
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Its a minor issue but worth understanding, if you've pitched for multiple days, a larger porch helps make the earth drier nearer your inner entrance so it turns to mud slower and that slightly helps with keeping your gear clean.
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