 Now I'll have to look at buying one of these too, just to keep my addiction going.
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 <tear-streaked bump>
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 why is that a bad thing?
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 What is this thing about tents aimed at mountain marathoners and adventure racers using walking poles for support!
The new Vango/ForceTen lightweight tent is using the same method.
Who would be doing a mountain marathon using walking poles?
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 ermmmmm because it's scientifically proven that you can walk faster and further using poles in a cross-country skiing style.
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Scientifically proven??? Please direct me to the article Dave - I'm keen to read it!
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 http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1189/is_2_275/ai_97726206
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 Most competitors would be running in mountain marathons. Not to sure a walking pole would help with that.
I'm not convinced that they are of benefit to fully fit and able walkers either. That article certainly doesn't convince me!
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 Scientists at the University of Massachusetts and the University of Wisconsin as well as at the Steadman-Hawkins Sports Medicine Foundation in Colorado found that poles provide the following benefits:By using the pole there is less fatigue. Their studies revealed that when properly used, the poles reduced the workload for lower-body muscles and joints by transferring some of the load from the legs to the arms.
Surely less fatigue means you can walk further?
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 I accept that.
However what about this argument:
Continued use of walking poles will reduce the workload or training load placed upon the muscles. Without this increased training load the walkers muscles and joints will not develop to the extent they would without the poles. Their walking ability and effiencency will not develop as well over time.
Wearing boots that enclose and restrict your ankles has a similar effect, your ankles and proprioreception do not develop as well as they could if less restrictive footwear was being used.
By all means if you have some injury or disability use poles but for an otherwise ablebodied walker not a good long term choice.
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 I have got to say I was snobby about poles then I gave them a proper go and I hate to say it but I find they do really help.
(That is a quick change to the thread)
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 At the end of the day it's down to personal choice.
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 I think it is a shame that the lightweight option is only three season. When I buy my next tent I want it to be lightweight and three season.
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 and the obvious typo while think of Heather Graham was "When I buy my next tent I want it to be lightweight and three season" it should read "When I buy my next tent I want it to be lightweight and three/four season".
I feel as dumb as I look :-)
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 What, in the phrase "lightweight and three/four season", caused you to think about Heather Graham???
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 well she certainly is an all year round girl....
not a very good link. I think my mind just wondered off while typing to think of the ever lovely Ms Graham.
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 Nothing beats a night on the heather :)
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or a quick shuffle in her honour.
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 This guy knows a thing or two about trekking poles too
http://www.klets.co.uk/whypoles.htm
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 On a different note, I'm sure ME made several tents back in about 1988. Tunnels, with a metallic coating on the flysheet. Anyone else recall this, or is it just the aluminium pans wreaking their havoc over the years?
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