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John Hesp
15/12/04 22:19
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"Glenfinnan's original claim to fame was it's monument............and is a tall pedestal under a fetching statue of Prince C himself." TGO p32

The National Trust for Scotland say:

"It [the monument] was built by the architect James Gilliespie Graham for local landowner Alexander MacDonald of Glenaladale in 1815. The statue of a Highlander and the cast iron inscription panels were added to it in the 1830s."

Oh dear, oh dear. A Scottish magazine with a Scottish editor.........

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Stuey,the sundance kid
15/12/04 22:26
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Thought he was french anyway
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Ninja Marmot
15/12/04 22:39
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Who? Cameron?
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Marcus Crompton
16/12/04 00:04
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Glenfinnan had obvious associations with BPC (a notable early hillwalker cf. Hamish Brown) but I as far as I'm aware the statue is of "a Highlander" and not of the YP himself.
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Chris Townsend
16/12/04 00:22
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"Glenfinnan Monument, set amid superb Highland scenery at the head of Loch Shiel, was erected in 1815 by Alexander Macdonald of Glenaladale in tribute to the clansmen who fought and died in the cause of Prince Charles Edward Stuart."

NTS website and NTS Guide to Properties
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DavidG
16/12/04 10:48
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Alas, if only Bonnie Prince Charlie hadn’t been tricked into turning back after taking Derby ...

The master race would still be bossing the flatlanders, we would all be trilingual (French English and Gaelic), the English shires ‘wilderness’ would have been cleared for sheep, England would have just spend 40 trillion pounds on a new parliament building following devolution, and Scotland would have won the 1978 World Cup.

Oh cruel fate...

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Mike D
16/12/04 10:57
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Totaly unbelievable....







Scotland winning the world cup! lol.
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Kev The Nasty Meanie
16/12/04 12:02
I've said it before and I'll say it again, at least we know our national team's pish.
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Dick Barrett
16/12/04 12:32
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We have a monument with an identity crisis, a bad football team, an expensive talking shop, A first minister I wouldn't by a used car from, a king in absetia (King Shaun of Connery). So all we need now is a terrible national anthem and we've cracked it!

Oh, and "Flower of (bloody) Scotland" should be torn to shreds - it's rubbish so cannot even be remoetly considered.

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DavidG
16/12/04 16:26
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History question:

To what event does the quote "Scotland in Dreamland" refer:
(a) The wave of euphoria that greeted the Jacobites'victory at Prestonpans and their subsequent drive south?
(b) the mood of the nation following the re-establishment of the Scottish parliament following devolution?
(c) Archie's glorious third against Holland during "the 78"?
(e) England going out of yet another football tournament on penalties?
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Marcus Crompton
16/12/04 17:24
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Definitely not (b) so it must be (c).
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Ben Douglas
16/12/04 17:27
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what hapend to (d)?
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Hamish Fenton
16/12/04 17:53
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(d) How much they originally thought the new Scottish Parliament building would cost
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Cameron McNeish
17/12/04 18:49
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The Scottish Parliament might dwell in an expensive building but at least it gave us the finest access legislation in Europe. We wouldn't have got that if it had been up to Westminster!

I can't argue about football, not after seeing all the Scottish teams drop out of the UEFA championships. I won't even argue about history - if WH Murray says it's a highlander at Glenfinnan that's good enough for me.

Judy Armstrong, who wrote the piece, is a Kiwi so wouldn't be able to tell her highlanders from a bonnie prince and the feature was subbed by an Irishman! I'm guessing but it was probably proof-read by a Yorkshire tyke! Where was I? Enjoying Sherpa hospitality and big mountains in Nepal...

What did Bonnie Prince Charlie look like anyway? A guy in a bonnet and kilt, with a touch of rouge and mascara if the historians are correct...
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Marcus Crompton
17/12/04 19:41
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Statues aside, I've now had time to read Judy's article. Just the sort of thing that makes me wish I was there, instead of here. More please.
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MikeyB
17/12/04 21:50
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I was made up with all the changes to the Scottish Parliament building; I worked on most of the architectural models for it and earned a bloody fortune.
Roll on devolution I say!!
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Dick Barrett
18/12/04 07:07
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"It's an ill wind..." as they say! ;-)
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