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Fiennes arives at base camp for Everest attempt
The man who's so far proved unstoppable goes for the big one

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Wallace
27/05/05 20:58
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Although I applaud the achievements of Sir Ranulph, he is a VERY arrogant man.

It's very interesting to compare the modesty of Alan Hinkes to arrogance of Sir Ranulph, two men who are very close to achieving their own considerable goals..............
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ptc*
27/05/05 21:05
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Stick Hempleman Adams in there too, then remove the furniture and breakables as the personalities clash.
All these peolple are driven, that manifests itself externally and internally, confidence and arrogance can overlap.
I'm glad these people are around, the Brunells, Livingstones, Shackletons of today.
While the rest of the poulation is happy to sit in a middle management job in the service industry, at least they're trying.
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Jules
27/05/05 21:28
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I agree. he is arrogance, but it's what helped him succeed. I like it. At least he's up front about being arrogant, he's never tried to hide it :o)

Good luck to him I say. He's there raising a lot of cash for Charideeee!

Hinkes is probably equally as arrogant, he just doesn't show it so much.


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Dick Barrett
28/05/05 11:50
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Could it be that folk such as these are so incredibly motivated and set such high targets for themselves that they subconsciously set themselves apart from normal humanity and vice versa?

Most media interviews are banal or focus on the less savoury details of their venture, ie “Why did you do it?”, “Is it fair to subject your family to the worry?” What was it like, seeing the frozen corpses?” Many of us who walk the high hills, climb mountains or explore wilderness areas experience difficulties in relating to people who work at the extremes of our sport so what can it be like for someone who has no idea?
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Mr Z
28/05/05 12:02
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I'm intrigued Wallace.

What exactly makes you say that he's arrogant?
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Jim the park warden
28/05/05 12:08
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Anyone who has looked the grim reaper in the face as often as Fiennes,and got away with it through a mixture of planning ,training and fantastic luck ,may appear to be arrogant.
It's just an enormous self- belief ,carried by not just adventurers , but by members of the forces and civilan services .
It keeps us all safe.
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Mr Z
28/05/05 12:22
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Aye, I tend to agree with Jim.

There's probably an aspect to him that just can't compute normal, boring characterless, fat folk. He's a very gifted human on the endurance side of things - I've heard that he can get off the couch after half a year of relative inactivity and achieve insane levels of physical fitness in a couple of months.

I've seen him in a couple of interviews and thought he came across as a great fellow. A bit mad, a bit hardcore. Also, I don't know of many arrogant people that would attempt to generate £2m for charity either. Surely they'd just say " Woo! Look! I got up Everest! Aren't I great! "
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Jules aka Nomad
28/05/05 12:24
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He has done some amaing things, I dont agree wth his politics, but that applies to some of my friends too.
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Richard Nicholls
29/05/05 03:33
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Best of luck to the guy - I wish I'd got the grit and guts to tackle a project like this.

Click on the link and help make his efforts worthwhile.

Rich
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Charlie Vereker
29/05/05 14:10
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Jules, What do you mean by "his politics"?
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Jules aka Nomad
29/05/05 14:15
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I dont agree with his stance on fox hunting, and please can we not have the debate again, thats why I did not mention it specificly.
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Charlie Vereker
29/05/05 14:37
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Fair enough
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Orange Alex Ford
29/05/05 16:31
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Having met 'Hinkesy' a couple of times, I wouldn't exactly call HIM self-effacing and shy and retiring.

That said there must be something in the psychology of high-altitude mountaineers and for that matter explorers/adventurers that makes them the way that they are.

That said, to have achieved what they have achieved makes them very special people in my book, and they have the right to be 'the way they are'.

(Oh and Alan...you STILL owe me a beer...I don't think I'll be seeing it though...)
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JYC
29/05/05 17:09
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I find it hard to make judgements about people without actually getting to know them, even if they are pretty famous. I would reckon that you would need a decent level of self confidence for being in the public eye, and may sometimes want a break from it. You know that saying, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I just think it's amazing what some of these mountaineers /expolorers achieve, and it takes guts to carve a career and get the sponsorship and backing to be so successful.

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Wallace
29/05/05 19:11
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I'd hardly call arrogance a positive personal attribute! Some people who achieve great things remain modest and humble. Others seem to be arrogant from an early age, usually due to their upbringing.

Whilst raising a great deal of money for charity is a commendable thing to do, if you're a high profile personality in the public eye, it doesn't seem too difficult. And I fear that to an arrogant person it could well be just another way of making out how righteous you are............
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Mr Z
29/05/05 20:59
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Hmmm...
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ptc*
29/05/05 21:20
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Indeed
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Ninja Marmot
29/05/05 21:34
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ahem
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Dick Barrett
29/05/05 21:35
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Wallace, what is your problem with Sir Ranulph Fiennes? On the one hand you applaud and commend him, whilst on the other you condemn him. Has he offended you personally in some way? Why do you raise the issue of his supposed arrogance?

Respectfully,

Dick
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JYC
29/05/05 22:20
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Perhaps it's jealousy?
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