 Brilliant article in this Sunday's Indpendent where they assert that there's not much good rock in Britain. Fantastic, where do they find these people?
Flippin' journalists, erm, national newspaper journalists obviously, ahem...
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 I find the British rock terrible as well - it isn't a bit like a good climbing wall with juggy holds screwed into plywood. Sometimes you even have to look around for a while to find something to hang on to and even worse in areas such as here in Northumberland there are no ropes fixed in place at the top of the climbs. Fine and accurate reporting worthy of our best tabloids.
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I'm guessing it's the London disease of assuming that London is the UK and vice versa. It's true, there is a shortage of rock in London even if you include that southern sandstone rubbish, so that's okay then... It explains why there's absolutely no tradition of rock climbing in this country anyway. Oh, hang on...
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 That's the biscuit well and truly taken!
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 If you read the same thread on UKC, the guy who wrote that has apologised, saying it's not quite what he meant. But it definitely came out as a total bunch of @rse!
And yes, it WAS a climber who wrote it!
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A climber? It gets worse! - it's probably down to some shoddy sub editing - not letting the facts get in the way of a 'good' story.
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 Barry Island rock is superb. I like the pink mint flavoured variety and the letters through the middle are so legible. ;0)
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Damn, now I feel mean. So we have less rock than France and consequently the growth in indoor climbing walls. Surely it's more that we have:
1. Terrible weather for climbing outdoors.
2. Urban areas without easy access to crags.
3. Urban areas with terrible weather and easy access to crags.
4. The sun rarely shines in the evenings.
Anyway, I'm off to Prague to go climbing :-)
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 nope, there is no good rock in london, (unless you take in to account some nice tall buildings). It just means travelling a bit further to find it. I am sure the Welsh quarry industry could not have managed to dispose of all Welsh rock? The Scots are very fond of their wee bits of rock and rumour has it there is some very nice bits of rock lurking in the north of England.As for the Lake district, well, there are few bits to be found here and there. Mind, who am I to speak, being just a hill going pedestrian? However, even I know a nice lump of rock when I see one, I have even seen some nice pretty ones!
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 What's also good about UK rock (and UK landscapes in general) is the variety (and quality) packed into such a small place.
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 Londoners can climb Nelson's Column and follow in the footsteps of Johnny
What they moaning about!
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 English rock is great as is Cornish but you cant trust Welsh rock ( horrid nasty stuff)
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Jules 'avin' a pop again. Go on, fill yer boots, you're leaving some other poor nation alone at least.
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 Mac - you are aware that a piece of Welsh rock impaled itself on Julie's leg recently, yeah??
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So this rock upped and embedded itself in Jules' leg eh?
If that's right it MUST be nasty stuff.
I remember a 2" thick 6" long splinter from an English telegraph pole trying to become one with my right thigh. Nasty thing"! Took weeks to heal and made my eyes water a bit at the time.
Sorry Jules, no history no sympathy. Of course now I have a (somewhat sketchy) history you have my sympathy.
Again, sorry!
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 phew. doesn't actually mention any walls in London.
For a moment there i thought i would have to start getting Eurostar over to Brussels twice a week.
Still the idea of having a beer to pass away time while i am belaying the wife appeals!
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