 Any suggestions please? I'm going on a 10 day trek and looking for a lightweight pack that can carry around 10Kgs including water/food and everything else comfortably.
I'm thinking of the TNF Terra 40, TNF Spire 45, Osprey Talon 44 and Atmos range. Any others that I should check out?
Thanks,
T
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 Whichever one fits you the best.
Crux AK47 is a brilliant sac.
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 OMM Villain, Macpac Amp35, Gregory, Osprey, the world of joy is at your fingertips.
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 AK47 (I have one) is marginal comfort-wise at 10Kg. I'd prefer an Osprey pack at that weight myself.
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I think it's horses for courses. I can carry my AK57 loaded to 16kg for 10 hours and it's fine. The Gregory Z55 crippled me, and the Osprey Atmos didn't fit me.
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I've used an Osprey Crescent 75 for longer trips but it's 3kgs in weight so I'm hoping to shave off 2kgs by switching to a lighter pack. My wife has the AK47 and loves it but I thought it best to go for something different. They all seem to fit okay, it's the things you don't notice until you've had the pack for a while that I'm interested in. My Osprey fits well enough but can be a bit over complicated at times and I'm leaning towards a simpler design but not sure what. Thanks for all the suggestions.
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 im working on a new ultralight pack myself, will be waterproof aiming at around 30litres which is big enough for me for a few nights out. trying to keep the weight to under 200g so durability will be an issue. I rarely carry over 10kg but i do worry that when i come to test this pack it'll fall to pieces at the worst possible time! probably dropping all my gear down a ravine!
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 Tony, either of the Ospreys are great packs. I tend to use my Atmos 50 for heavier and/or bulkier loads, eg 9 - 10kg. And the Talon for shorter summerier trips, eg 6-7kg. I haven't really tested the Talon and it would probably take heavier loads, but I just like the Atmos. :o) For what you propose to use it for I would say go for the Atmos: the extra weight is minimal and may be offset by the better carrying system; you will almost certainly have room to spare, which is always a comfort, whilst the Talon may get a bit crowded. Been racking my brains trying to think of a weakness to throw in, but I can't. The Atmos in particular strikes me as a very well designed pack. So long as it fits you, apparently some people just don't get on with it from the word go.
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Thanks Simon, I'm off tonight to try a bunch of packs on again so I'll give the Atmos some extra attention.
Basically, there's just too much choice, I want them all! :)
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 I have the OMM classic mountain marathon which is great for short trips and also have the OMM Mountain Mover which is cutomizeable to your particular needs and does long/heavy trips. I find them the most comfortable packs i have ever owned but they wont float everyones boat.
definitely try as many pack on as you can before buying :-)
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also have an OMM ar25 -nice & light pretty comfy too up around 7kg.
would deinatley recommend them. i think mine is an earlier KIMM. the outer mesh is abit battered from sliding past rock, but otherwise has proved durable
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 Eddie,
I wanted to reply to the comments regarding the Gregory Z55.
I dont mean to sound harsh but I do not think that this kind of comment is either helpful or true. Given that the pack has won a couple of major awards from Backpacker and National Geographic magazine and is the best selling pack of its kind in REI, others agree.
Of course my reaction as the distributor of these excellent packs is probably about as objective as your comment, but its obvious you didnt buy the pack and so the likelihood is that you tried it on with some weight and so have based all comments on a particularly short term measure.
Of course the other packs you mention are good packs (most are these days) but the Z55 has been particularly designed to be lightweight but to be comfortable at the higher weight ranges of up to 16 kilos.
To say that any of these packs didnt fit is is not correct as they all have certain adjustments which can be made and the measure of your back length should provide the right size.
Of course the way they 'feel' will be much more subjective and this is the measure you have used in making your decision.
Hugo
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 Sorry, Hugo, but unless you know Eddie's measurements, your comment that "To say that any of these packs didnt fit is is not correct" is just as 'unhelpful' as Eddie's original comment about packs not fitting him.
Fit is personal. A given rucksack will not, and cannot be made to fit everyone. Eddie didn't say "a Gregory Z55 will cripple you". He said it crippled him; that's his personal experience, and you cannot say it's wrong, because you're not him. And, frankly, you're foolish to suggest that you can.
Buy a rucksack that fits (or can be made to fit by proper adjustment).
My suggestion would be to look at the Berghaus Arete 45; simple, relatively light.
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 I use a Deuter 40+10 ACT Lite. I used mine to carry 12 kgs last year for a week in Dartmoor and Exmoor and shall be using it again for my week long trip across the Lakes. I find it very comfortable and the back is very adjustable and easy to adjust. Weighs in at 1650 gms (approx)
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In terms of using it for general walking rather than any climbing etc, is there an advantage or disadvantage in going for a particular type. e.g. I've looked at some packs which are described as being suited for climbing/alpine use, are these less comfortable for general walking or am I getting far too anal and should I just buy whatever feel comfortable regardless of the suggested use!
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I am afraid that I must second what CP says. Buying rucksacks is a personal choice and from it stems personal opinions. With todays internet led marketplace, it is clearly not always possible to try on a rucksack before you buy. I have ordered one or two rucksacks in the past that have been recommended by others but when tried on have really given me problems (eg anything with a support strut/mesh arrangement that pulls the pack away from my back really hurts me).
Eddie clearly gave the caveat that different packs suit different people and that the Gregory wasnt suitable for him. He did not trash the product or tell people not to buy it and I think people viewed in this way
I know lots of people who like and swear by the Gregory packs. But equally others who "dont get on with them"
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 I've been using a ULA Conduit and find it the most comfortable sack i've ever had. The main pocket is 35l but outside pockets and extension collar takes it up to 50l. I've just used it on a 9 day trek up the west coast and the heaviest i carried was about 8kg. That was with 6 days food.
Personally, i think the most important part of a backpacking sack is the waistbelt. I find that the waistbelt should be nice and wide to spread the load over as much area as possible. Also, the back should 'mould' onto you so you 'wear' the sack, rather than carry it.
I have a 40l Macpac Pursuit that i use for winter days out. I love it but find the hard pre-formed back kills me on multi day trips.
As other people have said, it's a personal thing.
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Tony, cotswold outdoors have the Berghaus arete 35 on sale for £25 reduced from £45.I'd recomend one of these,i have the 45L and it's fine.
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