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Deluge DWR by Patagonia
Is it really as durable as they claim?
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I think about buying Patagonia waterproof. I'm tempted by their description of deluge DWR performance ( that it lasts for years still being like new).

Does it really last so long? Does it need any special maintenance, like ironing, after washing or is it "wash&go" kind of stuff, just drip dry and it's ready?

What about high wear areas (shoulders especially), is this DWR treatment permanent there or does it wear off under pack's straps?

Many thanks for any input from people who have any experience with it! 

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I'm not sure whether Deluge is just one treatment, or whether it's Patagonia's name for any DWR they apply.

Certainly, some Deluge is a silicone encapsulation, like EPIC (which Pata used to use under their name EnCapSil).

I have a few Patagonia items all with Deluge; Stretch Zephyr, Supercell, Core Skin, Mixmaster & Dragonfly.

The item I've used most is the Supercell, as a lightweight work cycling jacket. Its DWR seems to have lasted about as long as any other.  I'm not sure that it's been markedly better than others.

The DWR on the Stretch Zephyr is remarkable, though; the water really beads incredibly well.  I can't comment on the longevity, as I have so many shelled micropile jackets...

The Core Skin and Mixmaster are both PowerShield, and the DWR seems effective, although I mostly use them for skiing, so they don't often get exposed to a lot of water.

I have heard from a reliable source that it's best never to do a detergent wash, as it doesn't seem to be possible to recover the situation with a soap wash.  That was with a Dragonfly.

Frankly, I'd not be particularly swayed by the DWR; I'd go for fit, function and price. After-market DWR treatments are pretty easy to use.

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Many thanks for your reply!

I'm positively surprised by EPIC performance and because Patagonia used it, I just wonder if deluge DWR have similar properties.

I'm especially interested in the DWR performance "on" the stretch element jacket, because that's patagucci jacket I'm heading towards.

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I've owned a Stretch Element for about 18 months now and I think it's probably just about due for a re-proof.  It's been used for walking and backpacking quite regularly (im away every-other weekend).
My Patagonia Rainshadow has the same DWR on it and after over 2 years of use, less often than the Stretch Element it's still working well.  Overall I wouldnt pick the jacket based on the DWR though, the points I like about the Stretch Element are the hood; easy to adjust, the cords that run down the inside of the jacket are great.  Performs quite well in windy conditions and can accommodate a helmet if you ever use one.  The only problem ive had is that the velcro on the cuffs is starting to scuff up the fabric around the wrists.  I imagine this will be the first part of the jacket to fail.
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I Nearly bought a stretch element but went for a paramo instead. www.themountainfactor.com are knocking them out at £120. If there as good as you guys are saying I might get one at this price.

John

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Yeah, thats a very good deal in my opinion.  I got mine while working in an outdoor store for Trade Price + VAT which was £153, The Mountain Factor must really want to get rid of those jackets (they are orange, but very good)
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Cheers Ben!

Convinced me, just ordered one now!

John

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I'd better not mention that you could get Stretch Elements for as little as £33 in TK Maxx a couple of years ago...

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