been thinking about getting one of these from bob, anybody used one yet?

that little extra space on the front could enable an extra nights camp, and still use my 25litre sack.

My wife and I used them on a 2 week trek earlier this month. I was originally interested in theem as they seemed to offer a solution to my artists wifes needs for carrying and quickly accessing small sketchbooks, pencils etc along with her camera and binoculars.

I found mine gradually carrying more and more as I realised what I'd like to access on the move - binoculars, sun glasses, snack bars, passport, compass, spare batteries (I keep my camera in a waist band pouch), sun cream, midge net....... Too much however and they bulge and you stand a chance of dropping something while trying to find what you need

Luckily it didn't rain at all through the 2 weeks but we had tried them in downpours on training trips previously however. Things generally seemed to stay dry inside although I guess they can't be classified as waterproof.

You attach to straps to the rucksack onto which clips the bag. The straps can be easily removed and turned into a shoulder strap for using the bag by itself.

However, I found the down side was putting them on / taking them off. I clip mine onto my rucksack shoulder straps no problem, but find it fiddly to get the elasticated straps at the bottom correct - they are hidden from view by the bag itself when fitting. The bottom straps are necessary though, otherwise the bag swings about too much.

I thought the map pocket was a good idea at first, but I do have to partly unclip the pack to be able to view the map!

All in all, for something which I believe is designed for adventure racers, we have found them useful and will be using them again next week in Scotland.

I've used them since they came out and I love them. The tops straps are too long for many folks, but are easily shortened. They're stable when walking, running, biking, it takes a stack of stuff and takes a map in the back sleeve. Marvellous.

Here's one in action (sorry about the weird photo, I'm removing a race checkpoint on Ladhar Bheinn).

Been using one for most of the summer and I quite like it. It won't stand up to heavy rain but that's about the only problem I've had with it. It's grand having snacks, fags, map, camera, compass and all that handy.

Useful when you need a sort of manly wee handbag for the pub or bothy or whatever later on as well.

Wow ptc - what's that stuck in the top of the trig point? It used to make a good seat...

It was just a rock to make it more visible to the teams I think. Obviously it would be hard for the poor sods to spot the trig point on that big wide ridge

That's a cracking shot btw Bob, it shows how big the cornice is as the ridge drops away at my backside in my photo.

Back on topic, I cut the mesh bottle holder out of mine. It does work with a wee bottle, but it's still a pain in the arse and my Buff gets tangled in it.

Second the mesh bottle holder removal (my sigg doesn't fit!) - always trying to save a few grams

I think we had clearer conditions for the summit pics than you ptc! The view was just as good in the other direction - Top picture at:  http://www.josmahon.com/work_in_progress.htm

thanks for the response,

i think im gonna order one, its hardly going to break the bank

im think im getting somekind of bag fetish..

join the club Morph

I already have a bag fetish!

oh and tent and tarp and stove.................