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Black Diamond camalot c3 - probs
Design Flaw?
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Not a very serious flaw in the Oh-my-god-it-doesn't-work-aaaaaaaaaaaargh sort of way but.... The wires aren't finished properly; they are very sharp little fellows. Now, if any one else is like me, and at the end of a days (or even a half day) climbing you just throw everything in a big bag to sort out the next day cos you're a bit knacked. So far my one c3 (size 1) cam has torn threads out of my rope and now a dyneema sling. Ok I should have learned the first time, and I did............. but then forgot and it happened again. Fact is, most other cams (as far as I know) do not have unfinished bits, and pound for pound the c3s are possibly the most expensive ones around. Is it just me ???????????????? I wrote to Black Diamond, who did not seem at all bothered .......... should they be?
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I would be bothered nick! Too right you should be. If your going to pay ridiculous ammounts of money for cams you certainly should expect well finished ones that arent going to damage other ridiculously expensive thigns!

Could you stick a little tape over the end of it? Or even a drop of solder to smooth off the top? If Black Diamond are unwilling to help. Also are all the cams in the shops (BD ones that is ) like that? Or is it possible you may have a damaged/faulty one?

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It's the c3 Camalot range that I have issue with; the Regular Camalots (I do have one of them as well) are neatly finished. Yes I might try a bit of tape or maybe epoxy resin, (suggestions?) But it is annoying having to bother when you've shelled out . I thought, well maybe I've got one of a bad batch, but their Europe rep emailed me thus:

"Hallo Nick,

<div align="left"> <div align="left">Thanks for buying BD products. There is nothing missing on your cam, it looks totally normal. Yes the ends of the wires can be a bit sharp but that is the way the cams are produced. No need to worry. If you have any more questions do not hesitate to contact me. Best regards <div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="left"><div align="left">Magnus"<div align="left"> <div align="left"><div align="left"> <div align="left"><div align="left"> <div align="left">No need to worry! Not if you get all your gear free! Smeg: Nice pic of Adam and Eve by the way.
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Sorry about the html on that last entry; copied off the email.

Under whatever liesure market related CE conformity the product meets it should at least be fit for its intended use and cause the user no harm through that cited use. Arguably a sharp edge around nylon and dyneema will cause harm to the user in this environment.

Give em rocks and dont take no for an answer... IMHO

Of course opinions vary, mine is just one...

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Certainly it is a good little cam; I use it everytime I go out.  It's a love/hate relationship.
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I am with the intriguingly named Fossil Bluff on this one....

A cam that chops gear...oh no. Hassle them. FB has the legalese down pat; they have no room to argue.

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Where can I get a copy of the CE documents? Or is it the UIAA? Or..... someone else?

Intriguingly?

Perhaps, Teniente Carvajal would be more dashing?

But absolutely no way put up with sharp bits....

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Perhaps, Teniente Carvajal would be more dashing?

Well that does it for me.  Morning breaks. Are you actually there? Is the hut still red?

It was a long time ago

Yes red.

And no letter-box, yipeee...

{pauses and re-reads}

What do you mean still red? was it ever anything else?

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I knew someone who went there. Why I do not know.

The 'red' is from them; the 'still' a grammatical (or perhaps inquisitive) aberration.


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