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I need some glove advice.

I need a glove that is good for all purpose winter use in heavy snow/slush. Being very tall my hands usually get very cold, and a couple of times I've lost circulation in one of my fingers. This glove would be used to stay warm, ski, sled, and in general mess around in cold temperatures. I do sweat from my hands a lot, if that's something to keep in mind.

I have a gift certificate to www.cloudveil.com that I'd like to use, so what do you think is the best glove from there?

Also, when they say XCR insert, does that mean it comes out of the glove--like a seperate glove within a glove?

I think ideally I'd have a fleece glove that goes into a waterproof shell--that way I'd be able to take off the glove to let my hand breathe, but I didn't see any at cloudveil.com. They might have some insulated Schoeler dryskin gloves with an XCR insert, but again, can you take out the insert?

Maybe I should get a set of their fleece gloves and try to wear those under one of their waterproofs?  That'd be extremely warm though. 

Any help is appreciated.

Edited: 18/12/07 12:11
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i use a waterproof shell glove with minimal insulation (mountain hardwear - don't know what model i'm afraid).

i layer the outer with either or both of a thin powerdry pair and a powerstretch pair.

in fact two powerdry pairs so as i can remove one pair and replace with another when they get wet from sweat. the powerdry dries very quickly, unlike the shell glove which will remain wet for what seems forever. if it's colder then the powerstrecth ones go on underneath the shell, possibly over the powerdry ones so i end up wearing three pairs of gloves.

the thinner liner gloves allow manual dexterity when you take the shell off and prevents your hands getting an immediate blast of cold air.

these three pairs efectively give me seven pairs of gloves in their various combinations for almost year round protection.

Edited: 18/12/07 13:25
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If your hands get that cold, I'd try mitts. A liner glove and Buffalo mitts would work quite well.
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Extremities Ice gloves are brill.

You get the removable Gore Tex inner and gauntlet outers and they have kept my hands warm in all sorts of crap conditions. The inner can also be used by itself.

I got mine half price from the Terra Nove web site. 

I also carry two pairs buffalo mitts (one inside the other) as spares.

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So what does XCR insert mean?  On the Goretex website it looks like a layer in the glove, but "insert" sounds like you can remove it.
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'Insert' may mean that it's sewn in (at the cuff) as a loose liner, i.e. it'll pull inside out of the glove for drying (or irritatingly as you take the glove off! ), rather than being fully sewn in to the structure of the glove?

Dunno, just a possible interpretation?
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the xcr bit is fixed into gloves, it is called an insert as is it a separate item, kind of like a mickey mouse glove, which is fixed at the ends of the fingers

generaly any removable liner will just be insulation

some gore-tex gloves are expensive and dont have much insulation,

if you want a warm glove look for primaloft or polargaurd or other names which mean hollow fibre

as to waterproof, it doesnt have to be gore-tex, it can be something else

so looking at the cloudveil site

all the hardshell gloves and mitt (note mitt will be warmer, 4 in a bed and all that!) are insulated, but hard to say how much as they dont all list weight of primaloft/polartec

 as to best, for warmth the mitt most likely, then serendipity is a 3 in 1 type, the outer has some insulation and the liner has more, on this glove the liner has the xcr and primaloft, rpk and troller could be similar warmth

hth

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I've never known any glove that would really keep the water out for very long in winter, especially when "messing around in snow". Better to accept your hands will get wet and use a mitt that will cope with it, like the Buffalo ones or even old fashioned wool dachsteins. Both are warm when wet (and you can always squeeze the water out if they're really soaked), cheap and the dachsteins are very durable.
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I Nikwaxed my Buffalo mitts !
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Could anyone suggest a windproof, breathable, lightweight glove to use as a liner glove (doesnt need to be waterproof) ?

Like Parky (above), I layer up to 3 pairs. The outers are Buffalo mitts and Paclite shells, which are both great. All the liners I try let too much wind through, which chills my hands.

For example ordinary fleece gloves, and also Terra Novas with Windstopper - as the Windstopper doesn't cover the bits between your fingers

Thanks, Judy 

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Another vote for Buffalo Mitts here – hands as warm as toast even when wet.

Edited: 21/12/07 10:39
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"Could anyone suggest a windproof, breathable, lightweight glove to use as a liner glove (doesnt need to be waterproof)

Fwiw, looked at Terra Nova Velos, Berghaus Soft shell and Berghaus Pamirs - all with Windstopper between the fingers. Chose the Velos as the fit was best on me.

Cheers Judy 


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