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Saw these mentioned on the ukc forum and wondered if anyone here's tried them. can't imagine what they're good for!

http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/

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Might make a nice pair of slippers...?
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Now you can experience that same physical and visceral sensation From the 5 fingers website.

I'm not sure I'd go for the visceral sensation when I'm walking thanks. And "Vibramfivefingers" sounds like some kind of nasty disease!! 

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Genuinely they're good for working on running technique. Keeping off your heels and getting the weight forward ie pose running.

We've been seriously looking at them...

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Not much use when you have to use orthotics though, ptc*!!
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Aye, but orthotics are as much a racket as squishy-heeled running shoes.

They're guaranteed to make people start to question the over-engineered running shoe trade.

Once you put them on, you all of a sudden realise how your foot is meant to behave when running (i.e. on the balls of your feet) and that heel striking is simply poor running form cashed in on by shoe manufacturers.

Me & Ptc are getting some.  We'll report back after they arrive and have been tried under cover of darkness (which'll be hard, because we won't be able to test them till May!)
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Aye, but orthotics are as much a racket as squishy-heeled running shoes.

They might be to you, Mr Z, but 3 years ago I couldn't do any physical exercise because of lower back pain caused by collapsed arches. My orthotics allow me to live a relatively normal life. If I try to go barefoot - which I used to do all the time in the summer - within three days I'm in a great deal of pain.

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They are ment to work well mr Z and PTC a guy a climb with wears them and says they are great lets your foot sit naturaly and is allso ment to help strenghen the feet. allso ment to help with a few other things tho can't remember all the details when i see him next will ask.

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Kate,

I'm guessing though that's for walking, right? 

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Walking, running, doing any physical activity that involves being on my feet.
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This nutjob trains in them: Anton Krupicka

The vibram things, not orthotics.

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Ooh, that's interesting.

I wonder if you were to incorporate the wacky vibrams with some Pose Running, if you'd be able to dispel the need for your orthos - at least for running.  Another thing that I'm interested in is if you ever got anyone to look at your back.  There might be a bit of risidual lordosis that never got pinged by the foot folk...

Walking is a much trickier business.  In fact, now that I think about it - that's the only application for high end road running shoes I can think of.  Weird. I wore Superfeet for years until my mate, who was at a training day, was told to quiet downwhen he started to question them on their orthotics promoting 'foot laziness'.

Back to the fingers five, I'm psyched to go running in them.  It'll pick huge faults in my form.  One of those crazy Sportiva - sponsored utra runners does his 'easy days' in them. Usually about 4-6 miles.

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Beat me to it Ptc.   Christ.

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Ha! An interesting reply there. I spent a long time having treatment on my back, they did x-rays and various investigations and I got nowhere. Eventually my GP suggested seeing a chiropractor and within about 3 days of getting orthotics my back was getting better. I don't like having to wear the orthotics, but at the moment at least there doesn't seem to be an alternative.
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Kate,

That is interesting.  And you say if you lose the orthos it all goes horribly wrong and the back pain returns?  Hmmmm...  Perhaps just for the hell of it, visit these folk.  I took the liberty of checking where you are and found these nice ladies.

McTimoney chiropractors have a very keen sense of your physical structure, through the MK 1 eyeball and touch.  They're seemingly able to spot really subtle structural anomalies.  I can vouch for this, after a year of NHS physio, x-rays, misery, blah blah blah, one of these chiropractors had me sorted in 3 appointments.

Just a thought.

When my back was wrecked orthos sorted it, or so I thought - but after visiting the back dude, suddenly my need for them disappeared.  That also coincided with me throwing away my boots and never wearing boots ever again. I reckon you can salvage those arches of yours - this could be the first step (pun very much intended).

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They're 5 mins walk away, Mr Z; I appreciate you taking the time to find them. Might be worth a punt!

 

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The amazing Barefoot Ted runs in them sometimes, as well as Huarache sandals, when he's not running 100km barefoot that is. "Eschew the shoe" he says, which would certainly end a lot of threads on here.
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Have you seen the price of them$35 diy, and $50 for ready made, for a bit of vibram lino and some string. And I thought the big boys ie addidas, nike and reebok etc rip people of. I bet they even get the lino and string cut up in some third world sweat shop and flown back to the good old U S of A, Hurache`s indeed.
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I wanted to try barefoot running (or something as close to it as possible) so I went with the vibram after preparing my feet in racing flats for a few months.

I use the Vibram sprint on the bridal path in Central Park New York, but the pebbles and the rocks killed my feet. I compare it to running on glass almost.

Did I have this experience because my feet were not prepared?

I did like using them on the road although when the temperature dropped, my toes numbed up. I  tried to run through it I but I somehow developed ITB syndrome.

I'm trying the newer version of the Vibrams.

I know this is all part of the learning process. I tried going back to just using a lightweight racing shoe, but it feels like I'm running with some funky sponge under my foot.

My new Vibrams are coming in Two days. Can't wait to get started again.

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Carlos - have you checked out the guys at Running Barefoot  - plenty useful clips like this - or Gordon Pirie's book (I think he prepared his feet by taping his toes). Can you not just run on the grass in Central Park?!
 

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