 Hi all.
I'm after an inexpensive (ok, cheap) lightweight rucksack in the 55 litre range. I'm desperate to keep the weight down to sub 1.5 kilos whilst retaining a decent level of abrasion resistance. My pack weight ranges from 12-15 kilos and I'll be using it for overnight hikes.
The GoLites certainly seem to do the job but the cost, for me, is a little prohibitive (I'm strapped for cash). The Kimmlite / OMM range also looks rather tasty, and I've seen them going for less than the GoLites.
Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks for your advice guys and girls.
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 There is a guy on ebay selling orange mountain movers (KIMM) reasonably cheap. There is also a pod crag sac on now, ending in a day or two. Lowe Alpine also do a hyperlite range around 1.6kg for around 75quid. Being from Yorkshire, im rather economical....Just bought a pod black ice,2 months old for 70 quid delivered, and it had a new platypus and tube thingy in it!!! Well good. Shop around!!
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 I bought one of the aforementioned Kimmlite MM's from this guy recently. Bear in mind they're the older model tho'. The latest incarnation is a bit less "minimalist". But they're Orange for f**k's sake! What better reason to buy one?
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 yeh kev, thats the fella. I often check the sporting goods, climbing mountaineering, bags. they cahnge frequently and theres always a good choice.
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 Jon, I once read on this site that there is cheap, there's light an there's tough. You get to pick any too. If you decide on the last two, can I recommend the Osprey Atmos 50l. A superb pack. I have used one for Munro bagging camping trips and can't overpraise it. It has survived some serious ill treatment without a mark, is a joy to carry and seems bottomless. ( I have recently returned from a two night outing when I got my normal stuff in plus crampons and a down jacket and had almost nothing in the 'side' pockets. ) Looking up prices I came accross numerous positive reviews, eg: "I highly recomend this bag! Its the second time I have owned an atmos 50 (the last one was stolen). The durability is second to none, I used this bag to hike 2200 miles on the appalachian trail in America. Where the bag is a big hit amoungst the light weight hiking community. The air speed takes the bag off your back, creating a comfortable ride. I am a gear head and have never owned a bag any where near as good as this!" Unfortuneately, it is likely to knock you back about £120 - ouch!
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 I can second Simon's comments on the Osprey - a smashing sack, but a bit too 'technical' for me. I own and still use one BTW. But I also have a CRUX AK47 - it is lighter but about the same price - this is a top sack too with no frills - saves around 400g from what I remember.
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I can second the Atmos 50 as a highly praiseworthy pack.
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 yo i'm on the OMM mountain mover just now... bought a villain last summer and was worried about the size so when it broke (wasn't me!!) on the first trip out and i took it back to the shop (wildtrak they're on here somewhere and do OMM sacs quite cheap) i took advantage and bought the slightly bigger mountain mover which i have found more than adequate even for a wet cold weekend in mid winter
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 Jon, how tall are you? If you are fairly small and really want to maximise you value for money, I'd say get a Crux A70 from here. It's bigger than you were suggesting, but for the weights you are talking of it should be ideal; plus it incredibly light and by all accounts the volume can be adjusted quite easily to cope with smaller loads. I have an AK57 so can vouch for build quality. John
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 Cheers guys, so many helpful suggestions and lots of useful links. I shall, as always, ponder a while and make my choice.
I have a couple of packs at the moment but tend to use a Highlander Forces 55 (mainly because it's tough and cheap and good for bushcraft) but for hiking I need something lighter than it's 2+ kilo unpacked weight. It is my best fitting ruck but that extra weight is ... unfriendly.
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