 I thought it was about time i tried a pair of Inno8 shoes. The choice is bewildering. Using their website, i think i want a pair of Roclite 305's. Any body used them? They will be used for everything on the hill, and for a 2 week backpack. Cheers.
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if your a size 7and a half go to pete bland sports i like Montrail Rock.
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 Usually a size 10 Michael. I like my Targhee's but thought i would try something lighter and cooler for the summer.
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Me too. I'm going to try the Montrail hard rock but there's a huge choice
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 hardrocks are a great choice MD........ I have three pairs of montrails cant get on with Innov8s....
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 Mike, there's a branch of Sweatshop built into the Next Generation gym at the Angus Gateway up where the A92 leaves Dundee, and when I was in there a wee while ago they had some Inov-8s so you should be able to check the sizing locally. Details here, perhaps call them and see what they have... The Braemar shop has a pretty good selection too if you're up that way. I've given up on them myself, too narrow in the forefoot for me, and my wife had her heels pretty badly skinned by Mudrocks (but the friend she gave them to loves 'em!). Pete.
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 funny that Peter, it seems with Innov8's that they are like Marmite....love em or hate em.......
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 I've given up on them myself, too narrow in the forefoot for me, and my wife had her heels pretty badly skinned by Mudrocks (but the friend she gave them to loves 'em!). Pete.
That doesn't bode well for me then Pete. I have a wide forefoot too. That's why i like Keen shoes. I've read that different models within the range have wider fits. I'll just have to try them on. Craigdon at Perth stocks them as well. That doesn't bode we
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 Dave, it's not love or hate... I owned some Mudclaws for a couple of years and they were better than the 2 pairs of Walshes that preceeded them (and I never hated those), but the fact is I find New Balance Terrain RX in 2E fitting are more comfortable so I use those now. I tried on (amongst others) Flyrocs and (IIRC) Terrocs but they were simply not quite right at the "if I'm spending £60 they need to fit better than this" level. Something like the Adidas Swoop, OTOH, was an instant "gad!, I wouldn't wear these if they were paying me" being just completely the wrong shape for me. On paper they're just the thing for me. In the flesh the last just isn't quite close enough to my particular feet for them to really work. Bah! Pete.
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 In my 'serious' running days, i loved Nike Air Pegasus road shoes. I see they now do Trail Pegasus shoes. Anyone know anything about them?
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 Mike First off, I've got Inov8 Mudrocs and love them - I'm on my second pair now. They're a pure hill running shoe though and useless on tarmac. I do hear around the hill-running folks that Inov8s are bad news if the heel cup doesn't fit. I did the LAMM a few weeks ago and my feet were fine in them, but my partners heels were badly blistered. He's usually fine in a normal hill race where you're only out running for a couple of hours, but nearly 15 hours was a different matter for him. I'm lucky they fit me great, but it seems its a hit or miss thing. Regards Nike running shoes - I now only buy Nike shoes for road running, and the current Pegasus are excellent. But I've never really gone for the trail hybrid shoe thing. For running tracks and trails, the standard road shoes do me fine, and for serious hill running, has to be the Inov8s, being much grippier and lower to the ground.
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 Thanks petie. Due to various injuries over the years my serious running is over. Regular running/training brings on too many problems. I used to be a fanatic and if i didn't get my 90 miles a week in....... These are just for hiking, hillwalking and the occasional wee jog.
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Mike - no need to assume that inov-8 is the only show in town - (though I've found the the Mudclaws are great blagging shoes) - as well as Montrail and New Balance mentioned above, the Mizuno Wave Harriers have a lot of good things going for them if you want to mix up trails and hills. Pete Bland and Run and Become in Edinburgh have a broad selection from a variety of manufacturers.
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 Cheers ALS. I've seen the Mizuno's getting good reviews. What's the cushioning like? I'm thinking of long multi-day treks.
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 Tried various models at the local running shop yesterday. I've a wide foot and found the models they had to restrictive. Gutted
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 Just to throw in an alternative to Inov8's, Walshes and Montrail's I have been having a blast running up and down hills in a pair of TNF Cooper's Hill's. I got em because my TNF Hedgehogs fit great and I went on my a*se a few times in my road shoes (Saucony somethings?) as soon as it got a bit damp. In fact they are so good that I'm considering ditching the Hedgehogs and using them for a 7 or 8 day backpack at the end of Aug start of Sept.
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 Mike, As everyone says, there are alternatives to Inov-8, but I've found they suit me and I've used them a lot in the last 3 years for walking, backpacking, trail running and even mountain biking. Fortunately I bought mine when the range only had 4 or 5 models in it and I haven't needed to replace them yet!  Btw my feet are quite wide at the front but I've found the fit good. So anyway, I started with Terroc 330s which have good grip but I found lacked a bit of cushioning for me, so I now use them mainly for peat bog or mountain biking. I moved on to Roclite 315s (the original Roclite model) and I love them - the grip is good and the cushioning much better than the Terrocs imo. They drain and dry quickly too. If you do want to try some Inov-8s and assuming the fit is ok, I'd certainly recommend that model.
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 I think the Roclites are what i'm looking for (if theyy suit my feet). The lacing system looks more supportive on the 305's?
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 Mike Keen do a non-lined version of the Targhee ...
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 Mike Keen do a non-lined version of the Targhee ...
The Voyageur.  I just fancy giving the Inov8's a go. 
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