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Emerald Fox
05/05/09 18:23
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Have been thinking for a while it's so silly to carry our 65-80 litre rucksacks which weigh around 2.63 & 2.52 kilogrammes - that's just the empty rucksacks! So have been hunting for lighter stuff - today looked in a shop at an Osprey Exos 58 litre, price 200 Euros, amazingly light at 1.12kg (for the L size).

 The Golite Quest 72 litre (110 Pounds from www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk) could be my favourite.... 1.43kg (mens').

  Also OMM Mountain Mover 120 Pounds on my list, but haven't read about that yet.

 Ebay has an Osprey Crescent 75 litre, seems to be a discontinued model, but has rave reviews - but it weighs 3.12kg - that's heavier than my Phoenix Phantom tent (2.40kg) !!

 I mean, saving 1kg means I can carry an extra bottle of whisky......  

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edwin
05/05/09 18:30

Here is a recent discussion on that topic...

..the sack....not the whisky

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Fossil Bluff
05/05/09 18:37

I found the quest to be fairly useful, and for a light sack it certainly manages a reasonable load. I just didn't like the style of the thing.

A GOOD REVIEW HERE

 See Geoff's review

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SimonDawes
05/05/09 18:44
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I got a Golite Pinnacle; even lighter than the Quest (under 1 kg) but still has 72 Litre capacity. 

I like it.  One main compartment and a roll top might disuade traditionalists but when packed it really is a great pack.  Has proved to be waterproof too so far.

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Emerald Fox
05/05/09 18:52
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Excellent replies, thanks!
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Emerald Fox
05/05/09 19:03
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Any ideas as to where to find/purchase a Golite Quest?
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Fossil Bluff
05/05/09 19:12

I bought mine through winwood outdoors but I dont think they stock golite anymore

TRY HERE

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Martin Carpenter
05/05/09 19:27

Asides from various independents around the place, Ellis Bringham have started stocking golites rucksacks this year. Certainly some in the Manchester branch last I looked.

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Fossil Bluff
05/05/09 20:17
Ellis Brigand charge you top dollar and not love you long time
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Guy Hurst
05/05/09 20:29
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Of the ones mentioned I've only used the OMM MM55, which I like a lot. It's got the storage options of a conventional pack, but without the weight, and it's also very tough. Mine's been dragged over rocks and thrown about in bothies and is none the worse for wear, except where a mouse chewed its way through a mesh side pocket to get at my Mars bar. I also like the fact many of the straps and other features can be stripped off to reduce the already low weight. The only potential problem is that it only comes in one size, which happens to fit me but won't be right for others. But then you'd be well advised to try on any pack before buying it.
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SimonDawes
05/05/09 20:59
 Scottish ice ace 808 forum posts 1 bookmark
I have just looked at the OMM MM55 + 15 online.  It does look a great pack.
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Parky Again
05/05/09 21:09
how much weight do you carry? lightweight packs are for lightweight kit. i would get your kit weight down before buying a lightweight pack.
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SimonDawes
05/05/09 21:16
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Parky, surely you have to do both and it is all a blance of cost to weight saved.  I have saved over a kilo with my new pack, for very little outlay.  To save a kilo on my tent (a Vango Spectre 200) would mean shelling out hundreds.  I have also just bought a lighter sleeping bag but this was for space saving as much as weight.  It all allows me to take more whisky.
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Parky Again
05/05/09 21:25

i agree up to a point simon. my view is that it depends upon what your "base" weight is. if it is well within the load capabilities of a lighter sack then go for it. just personal experience of hell with a lighter sack that couldn't cope with the weight with a tendency for the hip belt to start to collapse and then just collapse over a very narrow weight range. my "large" sack is now a gregory z55 which is by no means heavy but will carry a load with ease which far outweighs a potential further 750gms pack weight saving which wouldn't carry as well.

not all sack makers put a carry weight. some are rather optimistic e.g. omm (struggles badly when getting near the carry weight) whilst others are conservative e.g. gregory and, from my experience of golite sacks, golite too which have peformed well in excess of their stated carry weights.

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Lucky Jim
05/05/09 21:37
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Also depends what we mean by 'lightweight'?

Think Mike Fae Dundee mentioned 20lb ( call it 9 kg in new money ) as a good average upper limit for a frameless pack for any length of time. Plenty of these available, some as low as 0.5 kg and some even lower.

A 1kg pack is light to many and there are ones with framesheets of some description - Granite Gear's Vapor trail comes to mind at approx 1 kg, easily capable of handling 30 - 35lb (15 kg).

True you need some..................whoops......had to stop myself saying, 'synergy'...... Ooops...no I didn't!;)

You're dead right though. Your pack does have to work for the stuff you're going to put in it, that's for sure. A good fit for you personally is also critical for comfort and a good carry.

Apologies for the 's' word.

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Emerald Fox
05/05/09 21:38
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As there are 2 of us, it seems that it would make sense to get one Golite Quest and one OMM Mountain Mover 
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Parky Again
05/05/09 22:11

at least you avoided holistic jim...

(oooooh! bugger!)

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Judy A
05/05/09 22:12
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A backpack that doesn't fit you will feel awful whether it weighs 300g or 3kg. Strongly suggest you visit a shop and try one on with your example load before buying ...
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Mike fae Dundee
05/05/09 22:19

I'm very wary of recommending a frameless pack to someone unless they understand what it involves. A frameless pack isn't for everyone.

As Judy says, best to try them on first. Especially with a rigid framed pack, as a rigid frame can be very uncomfortable, even painful, if it doesn' fit.

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Fiona N
09/05/09 17:51
 Lowland rambler 144 forum posts

I'll second (third?) the suggestion to try on the packs. I spent Thursday afternoon in Keswick trying on rucksacs to no avail. Anything that had what I wanted in terms of weight/size/waist belt etc. didn't fit and this included the OMM MM55. I'd used the original KIMM sacs so I assumed I'd get on with the OMM ones but I found the lumbar pad distinctly uncomfortable and without it the back was all the wrong shape for me.

I even tried on a POD Black Ice despite the fact I carried an original version (ca. 1998) into the shop with me. But the new, lighter, more mod-cons version didn't fit nearly as well as the old one. WHich just goes to show, just because you've got on well with a make of rucksac in the past doesn't mean the latest incarnation will be for you. 

Currently, I'm a bit undecided what to do - I've got a very old, very comfortable, much loved Berghaus Cyclops Alp II which just seems overkill for the GR20 (with a big sac, there's always the temptation to stuff more stuff in ), not to mention being fairly hefty, and a somewhat younger, reasonably comfortable, much lighter POD Black Ice which doesn't have anywhere for the Camelbak and is generally a bit basic in terms of padding for my old bones. Also, I've never used it for backpacking - only as a climbing sac in the Alps etc. so long-distance it's a bit of an unknown quantity. Neither is ideal but I didn't find anything (in about 10 different makes and 15+ different models) that I thought I could get on with which was better than either of them.

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