Gear

Good check list and great website!

Another great online gear list resource is

Hey Jim no sending people to my competition! ... Only Kiddin! 

Hi Jamie,

Good idea, always useful to have an aide memoire.

Presumably the items mentioned are what you take with you, not an instruction!

" am a man so I don't include women's hygiene or medical gear that may be required."

I'm sure you could ask someone!!!! And in 'toiletries', why haven't you included condoms for use in multi-day backpacks?

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Do you think the sheep mind if you don't use one, ninja?

Hi Jamie,

For summer backpacking your list states that you use the atmos 50.For colder backpacking the 35.Is that right.I use both them packs and as previously discussed in this forum have had great difficulty getting everything into the 50 how do you pack your's.

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Two Snickers bars and a 1 litre pee bottle?

Bloody luxury!

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Each to his own but fom the Summer backpacking list, I would lose the following:

Lucozade (1,100g)  If you need electrolyte replacement, take powders and hydrate as needed

Survival bag (256g)  You don't need this if you have a tent

Sinckers and Kendal mint cake?

What do you do for water?  Please don't tell me that the pee bottle is dual purpose.

Is your sleepmat really only 180g?  Great if you are comfortable on it but not something I personally could hack.

Footloose, that was a copy editing error unfortunately, I have just ammended that now. I only got my Atmos 50 a few days ago, before then I had actually been using my Atmos 35 for wild camping which I have done successfully. In fact the Atmos 35 I find the easiest to pack rucksack I've ever owned as I like the two main zips as you can open the entire bag up like a suitcase on your bed which I find really useful.  I was going to post n the site a piccy of packing actually and may get it done soon.

Used the Amos 50 today for a wild camp, which unfortunately didn't happen due to really bad weather but all packed for one and walked about 8 miles with it up a mountain in Snowdonia. With the 35 I hang things on the outide a little and take just a closed cell mat which stays on the outside on the hanging loops. I think getting stufff crammed into such bags is done really by buying the right kit and then using dry bags to both compress and also seperate things out, I tend to put my tent in dry bags too and carry the poles on the outside pockets. Dry bags that are just the right size to carry each part of kit are vital in my opinion to the compressing and carrying in order, if you haven't got any yet try and buy several of the three best sized Exped dry bags.

Can't live without my Lucazade Jake, especially on the way up mountains, and for carrying water I tend to drink my Lucazade on ascent and as each bottle empties I fill it with fresh water for drinking or cooking. The bottles are recycled when I get homee. I have a bad sweet tooth which also likes fizzy drinks. You should see me after hardwalks, if after getting back down I don't have a diet coke within an hour I'm like a raging bull!I'm hoping to get some Nuun tablets soon and give them a go bu not sure they are for m, I don't like Platypus's as they give things a taste I don't realy like.

The surival bag is something I've always carried, I've used it as a ground sheet, sledge, emergency shelter, sleeping bag cover and in emergencies can be used as a stretcher with walking poles, they certainly have there uses and wouldn't go without one even if I have a tent, the survival bag is something that friends and other walks don't bothr so I'd like to know if I have to leave anyone on a hill to get help I have something like that to put them in. I've owned and extensively used the more expensive Rab Survival Bivi Bag and Alpkit Hunka etc and they all suffer condensation like the £1.80 plastic Gelert bag so I've been there and done that with paying £45 and £25 for them and not seen the point in them really.

Snickers gets eaten, Kendal Mint Cake stays in emergeny kit bag just in case of emergency. I've used it several times and had to replace it. I've underestimated long or really hard walks and its come in real useful then for providing positive mental energy for myself and others. I often walk with inexperienced people so tend to take a leading role when it comes to carry survival and saftey items as I know they won't take them, doesn't bother me carrying them.

The Outwell Classic is 180g on my scales, actually less now as the mice have been at it stays in the shed!!! I totally agree they aren't the comfiest but since going back to one for financial reasons I've been okay with it, if I had the money it would be a TR Neo Air. I've had two cheaper self inflating mats and both ended up bobbled and I've had two horrid nights on broken ones, carrying both a 3/4 and a closed cell would be my ideal but can't afford the ones I would buy at mo and the closed cell works for me.

The pee bottle isn't dual purpose lol! In fact it got a few bad looks today as it hasn't been cl  eaned since it was last used a few weeks ago! :-Z