 I particularly like Keen''s take on outdoor sandals - above - because they use a pronounced toe bumper specifically to protect your toes from collateral damage... No more need to fear feckless rock strikes. But there again one of the main points of sandals is to minimise the upper so there's less to rub against with every step... While there are times when I like a toe bumber (particularly open canoeing, kneeling on my toes while there's grit swilling around in the boat, or landing the sea-kayak on stony beaches) at other times it's just something for them to rub a a little with every step you take and consequently reduce comfort. They also make it much, much harder to tap a stone out from under your foot which can be most annoying! Which is why I much prefer open toes if I'm not at particular risk of banging them. And walking, I'm not, as long as I apply the revolutionary "look where you're going" technique... For a lot of people a lot of of the time I think toe-bumpers are more about addressing excessive worry than being a Big Win. Pete.
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  Yes when you think, as you originally on arriving here reminded me Pete, that the Roman Soldiers of old marched everywhere, across hill and moutain in their sandals with seeming ease....or maybe folk back then just had tougher feet than us pampered moderns????
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.jpg) Or they may have just not complained about the terrible state of their feet for fear of being thrown to the lions.
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Not necessarily a look to go after in this country as I believe they wrapped their feet against the cold. Socks if you like. Now I am sure none of you are going to say socks and sandals are a good look for anyone. There is the other issue, Peter, and that is Keen are generally wide fitting sandals of nearly shoe like fittings. Doesn't that mean it rules out some people wearing them? The source style of wide, open, flattish sports sandals allow for the straps to take a lot of the volume out but I don't think Keen sandals can do this as well as the more open ones. Might be wrong as I am only on my second ever pair. The first was a merrel I think that forever cut open above the little toe where the foot folds. I then got my source as it was the Best in both Trail and TGO tests. Instantly comfortable and with the guarantee based on the green dot still being there it means it is still under guarantee for me after probably 10 years. Plus the heel strap can be undone at the back and wrapped around the front strap attachment to creat a slip on sandal. Really good too. You have the casual slip-on which is good for lounging around a campsite in summer having a BBQ. however you can use the heel strap to go walking or for watersports. Plus the slip-oon allows for you to take an easy shower while wearing them (avoiding athletes foot in showers).
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 "socks and sandals" why not. is our "fashion" sense any better than the rest of the world. are "trainer" socks wrong?
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are "trainer" socks wrong? YES! in every possible way.
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 "socks and sandals" why not. is our "fashion" sense any better than the rest of the world. are "trainer" socks wrong?
Yes please TTG and MSP, I'd like to hear what is wrong with wearing socks with sandals. Frankly, I've often thought that many of those who pour scorn on the practise do so without really knowing why it is "wrong", so I'm glad of the chance to get an explanation from someone who knows.
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are "trainer" socks wrong? YES! in every possible way.
Just list a few of the ways then, the more important ones, please MSP.
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 > YES! in every possible way. Function Function Function Forget what the fashionistas have to say; they're all a bunch of wibbling, image-obessed idiots. If wearing socks makes your feet more comfortable, and reduces rubbing when wearing sandals, then wear socks, and leave the idiots to their dung-flinging contest.
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Trainer socks are "fashion" an attempt to look like your not wearing a sock when you are, but the cuff is too short and after a couple of minutes walking they slip half way round the foot, so no "function"
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Forget what the fashionistas have to say; they're all a bunch of wibbling, image-obessed idiots. Be fair CP. Give them a chance to say whether they actually have logical arguments before you describe them like that. 
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Ah, so it's only 'trainer socks' you're against MSP. You have nothing against normal socks worn with sandals?
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> Give them a chance to say whether they actually have logical arguments before you describe them like that I've never heard any opponent of socks with sandals give any other reasoning than that "it looks bad". That is not a logical argument, merely shallow, image-obsessed drivel.
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i wear socks with sandals. no smelly sandals. clean(ish) and comfortable feet. i also carry an umbrella and buy toilet paper. i even had a moist eye when ET went home.
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"they slip half way round the foot, so no "function"" no they don't. buy proper socks.
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A lot of climbers pooh-pooh the idea of wearing socks with rock shoes. Whilst most of them don't have any clue other than "it looks bad", for elite climbers there is some logic, in that socks can get in the way of feel of the rock (especially with slip-lasted rock slippers). Very few climbers climb at this level, but they see elite climbers climbing with no socks and so think that they shouldn't wear socks either. A lot of climbers complain that their rock shoes smell terrible (there's yet another thread on UKC about it today), whilst failing to realise that wearing thin liner socks will help to keep their shoes fresh.
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I've never heard any opponent of socks with sandals give any other reasoning than that "it looks bad". That is not a logical argument, merely shallow, image-obsessed drivel.
Yup same here, but I am hoping OM regulars to have much more sensible reasons than that. 
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Aesthetics are one of the main reasons most of enjoy the great outdoors, is that also "merely shallow, image-obsessed drivel" or are our aesthetic values just a part of life. I do find socks and sandals funny looking, wouldn't stop me from wearing them.
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Aesthetics are one of the main reasons most of enjoy the great outdoors, is that also "merely shallow, image-obsessed drivel" or are our aesthetic values just a part of life. I do find socks and sandals funny looking, wouldn't stop me from wearing them.
That's interesting. Do you find socks and trainers, or socks and shoes, or even socks and boots funny looking too? As the appearance 'wouldn't stop you from wearing them', can we take it that for you the practical benefits outweigh the 'funny look' and , "trainer socks" apart, you wouldn't criticise others for wearing socks with sandals?
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Aesthetics are one of the main reasons most of enjoy the great outdoors, is that also "merely shallow, image-obsessed drivel" or are our aesthetic values just a part of life. I do find socks and sandals funny looking, wouldn't stop me from wearing them.
That's interesting. Do you find socks and trainers, or socks and shoes, or even socks and boots funny looking too? As the appearance 'wouldn't stop you from wearing them', can we take it that for you the practical benefits outweigh the 'funny look' and , "trainer socks" apart, you wouldn't criticise others for wearing socks with sandals?
Depends how knobbly their knees are.
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