Anyone have one? Thoughts?
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 I don't have one... but my thoughts are that a recommendation one way or the other depends on what you're actually planning to do with it... "Camping", obviously, but where, when, how many, budget? etc. etc. Pete.
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Well I have been 'going round the houses' researching a tent! I had nearly decieded to get Marmot Grid but when I saw one up it was a touch too small for my liking. So my new favourite seems to be the LW G2 Trek.....seems to be just inside my budget at around £260 or so. I will be using it for backpacking, trekking in remote places and climbing.I will use it during British winter in Wales and Scotland as well as Summer Alps and further. Also cycle touring and some general camping/fishing etc hence the more room needed. All in all i wanted a 4 season type geo, which was tough durable and reasonbly light and was a true 2 man tent.
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G2 Trek v F2 Ultra What to do!!!?
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 I don't own a G2 but do own a lightwave tent and am very happy with it. One thing that bothers me on the marmot and other US tents is the often large gap between the fly and the ground. G2 Trek v F2 Ultra v t2 ultra What to do!!!?
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Ive got a G2 MTN and like it. It's a bit cramped at the tapered end though. Have you thought about a macpac minaret? Popular with climbers for their bombproof reputation.
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Tunnels are 4 season too, if they're made that way (and Lightwave's are, aside from the "Ion" versions). You'll get more space for the same weight with a tunnel, and the T2 has a generous inner that is very much a two person rather than a 1.8 dwarf tent. Main downside of the tunnel is it moves about more in a blow (but note "move about" is a noise and comfort thing, not a falling downand failing thing). I'd personally be inclined to go "Ultra" rather than "Trek" too, but of course they do cost more. Odd how the more expensive ones are more desirable...  We looked hard at the T2 xt comparing to a Nallo 2 GT. We felt the Lightwave to be the better tent once actually pitched, but that pitching was a pain compared to the Hilleberg. In the end we chose neither, going for a Hilleberg Kaitum instead with twin entrances. And while I commend the Kaitum to folk wanting a comfortable tent it's insanely expensive Pete.
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Would you say the Ultra'a are more durable than the Treks? Or just lighter?
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I'd have a chat with Carol McDermott on the number listed in the Lightwave website if you want particular details, Danny, but my understanding is that the Ultra range uses nylon 6.6 to get similar durability to the trek for lower weight. If you want stronger materials you'd have to look at the mtn or arctic versions. The ultra fly sheets are 30denier 6.6; the mtn flysheets are 50denier 6.6 and the artics are 70denier 6.6.
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Im leaning towards the G2 to be honest, I love the F2 but it looks a touch small, great for mountain stuff but a stretch if i was cycling or basecamp stuff. I really dont want to have to get two tents! Ideally I would get the G2 Ultra but its just a bit beyond my price range. Seems strange why the G2 Ultra is well over £400 but you can pick the F2 Ultra up for under £300?
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I think the F2 has been removed from the current list of Lightwave models... so you're probably seeing a clearance priced bargain! I suppose there was too much overlap between the F2 and Crux Storm designs to merit producing both....
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Quite a few folk just have a better feel about geodesics than tunnels. My wife was one of those... until she say how much more space she got for the same weight in a tunnel and now she's a convert. Do check one out before you commit to a geo. Pete.
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Quite a few folk ...
such as the majority of the North American market it would appear! I was in MEC in Canada last month and they hardly even knew about the tunnel option... despite making a couple of them !
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The N. American market seems particularly preoccupied with free-standing being a Really Big Win. Having used both freestending and non for years I personally find it's a bit of a non-issue outside of particularly awkward pitches. I do like the free-stander from the sea kayak, where shingle beaches or platforms of rock devoid of soil are entirely likely, as is very little choice of where to park, but for general mountain, cycling and backpacking work I've never found anywhere the Spacepacker (a single hoop) wouldn't go. Pete.
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I have a T2 Trek XT - Very pleased with it ! My mate has a G2 Trek XT, and besides looking cooler - I don't see the point. It is heavier, smaller & the porch section still isn't free standing. And to top it all, he suffered bent poles in a storm last year. I will stick with a tunnel thanks!
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and besides looking cooler - I don't see the point. Indeed. The market is structured the way it is because of what sells, and lots and lots of people seem to think that you need a free-standing geodesic for Proper Camping. You don't... Pete.
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 Well I have got a geo but thats much more about having somewhere I can actually sit up in than anything else  (not a problem for most of course.).
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I have a Vango Exuinox 350 tunnel that has survived gale force winds with ease! One particular night wiped out 2/3 of Llyn Gwnant campsite - but not my cheapo Vango! Tunnels just seem to duck out of the way of trouble, whereas a geo rumbles away, feeling like it's going to explode any moment. I havn't experienced any extreme wind yet in my T2 Trek XT, but I have 4 strong ground anchors as the Lightwave pegs are a bit puny - and with one in each corner, I have complete faith in it.
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I have a G2 Trek and like it. It's light enough for me to carry alone but is big enough for two people. I have used it for wild camping in the Lake District in summer and winter. Two of us camped out high up in very cold snowy conditions in February 2010 and it was fine. It's freestanding so you can easily try out places to put it down.
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