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I'm currently reading my way through this book, and I have a question about the all the gear that it recommends/says that you need to go scrambling.
I've done Crib Goch and Tryfan so admittly my experience isn't that great. But do people really take all that gear with them scrambling?
How does this fit in with travelling light?
I have a Berghaus Airflow II 25L backpack I use for days out (managed to convince wife to carry her own stuff at last), which if I was to have all the scrambling gear as well would basically not be big enough. So what would the recommended size be for "mountaineering"?

PS I'm going to the wild fens (born and bred fen tiger) this evening and back Sunday afternoon, so I won't be able to check replies until then. Just incase anyone thought I was being rude not replying over the weekend. Oh and also thanks in advance as well
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Depends on what you're doing and the conditions.

I dont have the book you're talking about - what kitlist do they give?

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helmet
approx 18 karabiners 2 diff sizes and types
prusik loop
belay plate
at least 4 extenders
2 8ft dyneema tape slings
1 16ft dyneema tape slings
rocks on wires
50/60m rope
gloves
scrambling boots (are there brands that can be used all year round?)
ruck sack (just noticed they say 40 - 50 litre doh! should of read that bit)

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or even scrambling boots that can take crampons?
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I've got the book too. The kit list is a general list that would equip you for the other routes in the back of the book too. The book's also aimed at relative beginners moving from walking to scrambling, and beginners sometimes need more kit till they realise their abilities to make moves without as much psychological protection. While Crib Goch and Tryfan don't need it all I suspect you'd have problems on Tower Ridge without a fair amount of this kit.

Overall I think it's a great book, although many of the pictures, and some of the advice, is reprinted word for word in Trail. No surprise as one of the co-authors also works for Trail.
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And it was based on that first extract that I bought the book.
I've enjoyed reading it so far, and it was one of the reasons of moving the beginner to some one with a bit more confidence that I got it.

Dam I don't want to go out in the rain, bit the mutts are giving me that look that says they need to answer the call of nature.
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Darren I use my AKU boots all year round, and they take crampons. I've used them for everything from a wander round Alderley Edge (10 minutes drive) with the dog to Longs Peak in winter. OK they were £150, but money worth spending as you tend to be on your feet a lot with our lifestyle.
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Darren it's a good book, pretty much finished it now. No you don't need all that kit it's just a question of picking and chosing as you get more experience.
I've just got a Karrimor Boma sac that i've just got back from the Lakes with, it was ideal for carrying everything i need and is that alot more robust when it comes to scrambling :)
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They wont take crampons but I think Cotswold still has some Scarpa Mescallitos left at a knock down price.
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The latest version of the Mescalito (with the deeper tread) do take crampons. They even have a clip on binding lug on the heel suggesting they will take a C2 crampon such as the Grivel G12.
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Thanks guys for the above

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