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Sam 2
03/01/11 03:00
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Hey everyone,

 SO I was wondering if using C1 crampons are ok with my Merrells (phaser peak). Here's a photo if that helps.

http://www.getzs.com/images/products/22434/full_merrell%20mens%203.jpg

 Thanks!

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Sand Dancer
03/01/11 12:34

Sam 2 - I'm not familiar with those boots, but if you type "crampon compatibility" into search facility then chose most recent items first you'll access some threads at the back end of last year that may help.

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Mrs. Nesbit
03/01/11 12:51
Kahtoolas would probably be fine on those. I'd be a bit wary of using G10s or similar, though.
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Wurz
03/01/11 13:37
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I think you'd get away with G10's with the New Classic not the New Matic heel clip version.  Whilst crampons with heel clips will fit most boots they don't stay on well.  Also the bale digs into the achillies as boots without the sole unit have softer uppers.

 But a lot depends on where and what you are trying to do.  Should you lose one you can't kick with the edge of the boot like a winter boot.

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Sam 2
04/01/11 02:09
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Ok thanks for the info everyone!
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TP
04/01/11 10:01

You'd be surprised what you can kick into with soft footwear. Last winter I only wore my montrail highlanders all winter and kicked steps a lot. Into quite hard frozen snow crust too. I did tend to go up slopes more than skirting round them so never really did the side swiping style of kick step but if I had the shoes would have coped. They have a degree of stiffener in these shoes. Its called my foot. Does work and I never got bothered by bruised toes or the like. Although I am probably not the best person to give advice.

It always depends on what you are doing. For example what terrain? Would Kahtoola microspikes be a better option? It is surprising the sort of terrain they will cope with. I see them on all sorts of fells in the Lakes and those hills aren't exactly all easy slopes and the like that the gear shops say they are only good for. If you have money to waste then try it out. AFAIK kahtoola (KTS) alloys then Kahtoola steel a very close then Monte Rosas then G10s in the stiffness stakes from less to more stiff. I am thinking of getting Monte Rosas to wear on Asolo Flame GTX boots and even on my fell shoes. I don't find I actually need to wear crampons that much. I do see signs of people using crampons (even 12 point ones) on snow and do wonder why the people feel they need them. I mean snow is not actually that slippy. Compacted snow can be but even that is often negated by a good boot or shoe grip. It is the reason why I stopped wearing my winter boots (they were either a B1 or B2 boot depending on the reviewer, even manufacturers blurb mentions both grades). I found my fell shoes were grippier on compacted snow and even ice than winter boots. Considering crampons are supposed to make it 10% harder to walk or 10% less efficient (something like that) then perhaps reserving crampon use to when you really need it is sensible. Afterall if wearing them all day "just in case" means you end up finishing your walk in the dark then is that really wise and safe? I don't know for sure but just one thought.

I'd consider the Monte Rosas for those boots however like the earlier guy said the Kahtoolas are slightly more flexible. There is a difference between the MRs and the G10s. When IU flexed the MRs they bent really easily. The G10 did but you couldn't bend them right back like the MRs. I think there is a more flexible flexi-bar for the Grivels that is standard in the MR but an optional extra / replacement for the G10s. I could be wrong but I saw them on the Grivel site or perhaps a respected retailer site.

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Sam 2
08/01/11 19:48
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Cool, great info, I think I'm going with the CAMP Stalker for now ... It seems to be suited for flexible boots and the price is nice.  At some point when I can, I'll upgrade gear for more technical stuf.

 Here's the link for the CAMP Stalker: http://www.gearbuyer.com/products/camp_stalker_crampon.html

Thanks again everyone,

S2

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