Arcteryx Kata 45

Anyone try or see this backpack?

http://arcteryx.com/Product.aspx?EN/Mens/Packs/Kata-45

No but I would love to try one. It is on my short list but never come across one to try on for fit!

what about this:

http://arcteryx.com/Product.aspx?EN/Mens/Packs/Altra-65#Over_60L

http://arcteryx.com/Product.aspx?EN/Mens/Packs/Arrakis-50#40L_To_60L

http://arcteryx.com/Product.aspx?EN/Mens/Packs/Axios-35

Nick:

Do you have any other recommendation like OSPREY?

What I like about KATA is simple design with no extra straps and features which makes backpack complicated with features and to much pockets which you do not need actually.

Arrakis 50l is great but I wounder if I need so rugged backpack for alpine trekking. Usually I choice nice days when I do 1-3 days trecks and climb.

I most prefer Altra features - really great pack but it is to big I think for mountaineering trekking and easy climbing.

Any recommendations?

This is interested answer from Arc stuff about comparing all above mention packs:

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The Altra 65 would be an excellent choice, although I have noticed that it is larger than the other ones you have looked at, and is not designed for climbing specifically. Since you said you will be doing only a little climbing though, this should not be a problem.

The Axios 50 would work as well, but being a lightweight pack, has less padding on the shoulder straps and frame, so if you were planning on travelling for a month with it, it may be worth considering one of the others for the additional comfort and structure.

The Arrakis 50 weighs 2.2kgs and is heavier than the other packs mentioned. This weight provides additional durability, and it is a very rugged pack. Again though, given that you plan on travelling in weather that is not too extreme, the weather proofing abilities of the pack may be more than necessary, and not worth the extra weight.

The Kata 45 or 37 are on the smaller end of the packs you've looked at, and a 37 litre pack may be slightly too small for a month of travelling (of course, depending on your personal travelling style and how much gear you will need). The Kata 45 may be a great choice for you though and I would encourage you to consider it further. The Kangaroo pocket is a great feature, and is on many of our packs, including the Altra 65 and the Axios 50.

I have no experience with the Ospreys. I dont like their compression strap system on the side and I always feel like the bag is quite flimsy, particularly the buckles. Having said that, lots of people swear by them and say they are robust. MY gear tends to get a hammering so I prefer sturdy packs like the Deuters. They are a bit heavy but they are very very comfortable and have good features. Also, I have never managed to break one which speak volumes

North Face used to make good packs but all my TNF packs are 10 years + so dont know if they are any good. 

None of my shops around here carry the Arcteryx bags so I dont know what they are like. 

What are you planning on using it for?

Alpine trekking in alps max 3000m with a easy climbing on my way. Nothing special just usual alpine treks in Alps.

I can also get good price for Arrakis backpack with retail price is 450 € but I can get it for 340e which is still a LOOT but better than 450e.

On other hand I doubt that I need so weather resistant backpack.

WEll, the size you need will depend on how long you are going for and how often you can resupply and get water. If you are stying in huts you can probaly get away with 45-50L pack. But you want something that is very comfortable to carry so make sure you try the bag on with some weight in it. It can look great but if you are not comfortable with it on then it is no good. If you buy online make sure you check the return policy and how long you have to return it.

€ 340 is A LOT for a pack! I would only spend that much money if you are likely to use the bag a log in the future and if it is the absolute most comfortable and perfect bag in the world! 

Very few pack are REALLY water proof so you will need a raian cover. It looks like the Arrakis is waterproof but I would say save the money, by something cheaper and spend some extra money on some roll-top dry bags to keep the stuff in your bag dry