Breaking in new Boots

specifically Burma Pros

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24/01/2011 at 15:24

My old Tevas are getting a bit threadbare so as we are climbing Mont Blanc in July I thought I'd treat myself to a new pair of boots in December to give them time to break in.

My old Tevas are a lightweight fabric and suede goretex type and very flexible (you can almost bend the sole in half), but decided to go with a more substantial boot for hacking around the mountains in, maybe a three season boot.

Anyway, I tried a load on and bought a pair of Meindl Burma Pro.  They felt really comfortable in the shop straight out of the box albeit a bit stiff (which I would expect being a much more substantial boot).

The first time I wore them, just for a short 1 hour walk, I was amazed at how stiff they really were with virtually no bending of the toe box - almost like I was wearing my ski boots but with more movement in the ankle.

They were so stiff I found it hard to close the boot with the laces as the sides wouldn't bend in much, so left them a bit loose, but then my ankle was chaffing on the inside of the boot against the padding which was a bit disconcerting.

Anyway, yesterday I wore them for the third time (skiing and work getting in the way of getting out of a weekend) and I did an easy two hour walk through the mud and rocks around the coast and back and they are easing up quite a bit around the ankle now.

But they still feel stiff around the toebox, with virtually no bending of the toe - I say toebox, but I guess I'm taking about the stiffness of the shank (if it has one) on the sole, which is hardly bending.

Don't get me wrong, they are still lovely boots and very comfortable and I am getting used to the different way of walking, but I was wondering if they will eventually start to bend around the toe, or is that it?  I mean there is no creasing at all across the top of the leather.

Just in case you hadn't realised it, these are my first three season boots.

24/01/2011 at 19:57

I don't know the boots you've got , from description sounds like they are at least C1 if not C2's.

 They may 'bend' very slightly more over time. If you are going to do Mont Blanc, winter walking, these are the type of boots you need, (depending on what you intend to do).

 You need the 'stiffness' as when using crampons, "bendier" boots would not do. Can't use those with crampons.

 As a quick guide to which boots you have.

 Stand as close to edge of a stair/step as you can.

 If boot starts to bend at @ 2cm it's likely to be a C1, if it starts to bend at @ 1cm it's a B2.

 HTMH. Paul

24/01/2011 at 20:11

The Burma Pros are B0 boots so won't take crampons, at least in theory. However, my gf has these boots and they're fine with Grivel G10s. Not sure if I'd want to go up Mont Blanc with B0 boots and C1 crampons like that though -- but others on OM will have more experience of this.

I'd say anybody with no experience of "traditional" leather boots like the Burma Pros will find them a bit stiff and clumpy feeling. Having said that, I wore such boots for most of my hill walking for years and still find they feel cumbersome on the odd occasions when I now use them in winter. But some people like the "fortress" feeling they give their feet.

24/01/2011 at 20:23
Are you not going to be wearing crampons most of the time? In which case a boot with some stiffness can be a lot more effective and comfortable than a bendy one. The stiffness makes it easier to kick steps and easier to stand on just the front bit of your foot. Perhaps you should find some hard snow and crampons and see how they feel then - and get used to walking in boots and crampons.
24/01/2011 at 21:35
Thanks for the replies, just walked home from work in my trainers and realised that probably another effect I'm feeling is the higher boot supporting my ankle and not allowing it to flex as much as it would normally do (like when wearing trainers for example).

Guy, I reckon you are right, I'm just not used to clunky boots. I'll be wearing b3 boots for the summit day and when doing my ice climbing training so just wanted a stiffer boot for walking around on in the snow (as ALS said) but these do feel really stiff and currently a b2 on huskyman's scale but I expect they will give a bit as I break them in, but as Guy says theoretically they won't take crampons but I reckon they would easy take a flexible crampon even after they loosen up a bit.
24/01/2011 at 21:59

If that stiff I don't think they will 'loosen' up much, if at all.

 I have all the categories of boots and haven't seen any noticeable change in stiffness.

 Some of them have been re-soled, still haven't noticed an change in stiffness.

24/01/2011 at 22:04
Burma Pros aren't really that stiff; my very similar Raichle Mt Trail xt gtx boots have eased off a bit during the course of their lifetime and the new pair I have (snaffled before they stopped making the women's version) certainly feel stiffer than my battered 4 year pair with heel falling off! I suspect it's just your feet suffering from shock after moving from the comfy fabric Tevas.
24/01/2011 at 22:07
WPGB - when you're in snow the stiffness isn't the same issue - it often makes progress easier. Indeed, once you get into 'proper' winter climbing, the only way of doing it is in stiff boots. What you're doing is like trying some skis on then going for a walk round town! Find some snow!
24/01/2011 at 22:10
Snow, in 3-season, B0 boots?!? But surely her head will explode?
24/01/2011 at 22:14
If you go to the Meindl website look in service/FAQ and you'll see Meindl recommend basket crampons for the Burma boot. 
24/01/2011 at 23:53
I know this is a silly question, but what is a basket crampon?
25/01/2011 at 00:03

I presume like Grivel's New Classic bindings?

http://www.binbin.net/photos/grivel/gri/grivel-g10-new-classic-anti-ball-crampons.jpg

25/01/2011 at 10:12
I had a pair of Burma Pros. They will 'break in' slightly, but not that much. Clunky boots are clunky boots,
 I used an old pair of strapped crampons with them without any problems. Apart from the crampons falling off when i tried some vertical stuff to check their limits!

 

25/01/2011 at 15:16
Mike fae Dundee wrote (see)
I had a pair of Burma Pros. They will 'break in' slightly, but not that much. Clunky boots are clunky boots,
 I used an old pair of strapped crampons with them without any problems. Apart from the crampons falling off when i tried some vertical stuff to check their limits!

 glad you tested it rather than me!
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