Camping Stove - Which one?

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11/04/2012 at 21:53
Looking at getting a stove as looking to do a few wildcamps this summer. Looking at MSR Pocket Rocket and Primus Express stove. What stoves do people recommend. Not looking to spend more  than around 30 or 40 pound? Or if this has been discussed before can someone point me to the thread?
11/04/2012 at 22:00

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11/04/2012 at 22:07

Glenn, I've got a Primus ETA Express stove set (LINK).  It is has efficiency increased because of the heat exchanger on the bottom of the pan.  It all packs away neatly in a mesh storage sack.  I like the fact it has the piezoelectric ignition on it (I know some on this site do not like that).  It is more than you said i know (but it does include the windshield and pan).

I like using gas: it is clean and no fuss.  If I was looking at alcohol or solid fuel I think I'd go for the Esbit (HERE) which is the same weight and capacity of the Primus set-up. 

GOF
11/04/2012 at 22:32
Gelert Pocket Rocket Clone - £10.  Millets/Blacks Anodised pan set...err...£17?  windshield...£5.
GOF
11/04/2012 at 23:03

Of the two I'd perfer the Express because it always seems to me to support pans a bit better. The Poxket Rocket is pretty good too mind, but just makes me feel that bit more nervous.

If you're cooking for more than one the Express Spider might be another possibility. Pushes your budget, but offers much more stability.

11/04/2012 at 23:29
The pocket rocket is pants at "gripping" pots imo.

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12/04/2012 at 00:08
GOF wrote (see)
Gelert Pocket Rocket Clone - £10.  Millets/Blacks Anodised pan set...err...£17?  windshield...£5.

I have never regretted buying any of the expensive gear I have, just the cheap stuff.  Whilst I posted the link for the Esbit stove (and recognise the excellent value that it is) I'd probably go for the solo cookset if I were to change now (BPL Stove set).  The Primus is reassuringly expensive (and well made), though I bought mine 3 years ago for £56.00 (delivered).
Edited: 12/04/2012 at 00:31
12/04/2012 at 00:12
Thanks. I have decided to go for the primus eta express as looking at the reviews it is a very good stove and perfect for what i want. Expensive but when I factored in having to pay out for pots on top of the normal express stove which i was looking at it works out at around the same anyway. Will give this a go and see how it works.
12/04/2012 at 00:22

You won't regret it Glenn.

http://s4.outdoorsmagic.com/members/images/46459/gallery/dsc01121.jpg?width=350&height=262&mode=max



 
http://s3.outdoorsmagic.com/members/images/46459/gallery/22052010044.jpg?width=350&height=197&mode=max

Edited: 12/04/2012 at 00:24
GOF
12/04/2012 at 00:51

Thing is....the Gelert pocket rocket clone is made in the same factory as the MSR pocket rocket.

I have even had it suggested that they are the same stove, just rebadged.

Yes..it was cheap and, yes, it does perform.  Dont judge book by its cover.

GOF
12/04/2012 at 01:00

Re-badged it before or after removing the  piezoelectric ignition?  If a Gelert is the same as the Pocket Rocket don't compare them to the Primus:

PRIMUS

Gelert

Edited: 12/04/2012 at 01:21
12/04/2012 at 01:14
A friend of mine has the Gelert one, he loves it.  It ain't the same though (as the Primus, it does look very similar to the MSR).
Edited: 12/04/2012 at 01:26
12/04/2012 at 03:11
Glenn Lacey wrote (see)
Looking at getting a stove as looking to do a few wildcamps this summer. Looking at MSR Pocket Rocket and Primus Express stove. What stoves do people recommend. Not looking to spend more  than around 30 or 40 pound? Or if this has been discussed before can someone point me to the thread?

Sorry but is it that hard to type into the search bar on this site?

Bit of a sod if you are using Chrome but there is a plug-in for Mozzila for it.

Or you could just google-Fu the fuck up...


Sig's are a waste of bandwidth...

12/04/2012 at 03:35
I have the primus eta Express and can say I rate it highly. I don't like the lid/frypan - never used it ad anything but a lid and its too heavy for that.
A tinfoil covered cd or dvd fits perfectly as a lid.
Also, I like to use legs on the gas canister - the jetboil ones work better than the ones primus sell.
GOF
12/04/2012 at 08:00

Mr Sworld, please take your four letter anglo saxon expletives to Windy - the OP could be, for all we know, a minor.

anyway, the two main names that came up as stove manfacturers were Kovea and Maple Leaf.  I cant find Maple Leaf - but Kovea is here

I think you will find a surprising number of familiar products - but then, should that really be a surprise looking at the economics of manufacturing - a while ago there was a thread on here discussing that a mainstream brand stove (cant remember who it was or find the thread) once examined closely was made by  IIRC Mapleleaf including the tiny weee Mapleleaf malers stamp.

There are also discussions here and elsewhere as to the true merits of Jetboils,  Primus ETAs, pocket rockets, calderas  etc - my conclusion is by what you like the look of because, outside of certain narrow parameters, it wont work as well as you'd expect.  Problem is the parameters are different for each set up, so you could/can endup with a stove collection to cover all circumstances.

GOF
12/04/2012 at 08:53

Gas gas gas. For wild pitching I prefer stealth, especially when it's officially not allowed to wild pitch On those illegal wild pitching ocaissions I very much prefer meths burners. They are soundless, no fumes and small flame so low visibility chances.

just my 2 cents against those roaring gas burners

12/04/2012 at 09:01

Second the pocket rocket clone.I have used  the pocket rocket for years never had a problem but if I was buying again I would buy the clone.[Clone was not available then]The case is good too stops it being damaged in your sack.You can pick up a one person cookset for a tenner if you shop around. £50 left in your pocket

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12/04/2012 at 09:47
My experience of the pocket rocket is that it has a very narrow spread flame, which is alright for boiling water quickly but if its used in conjunction with thin titanium or aluminium pans it just tends to weld food to the base of the pan.
I've now got a Higear Blaze titanium stove which has a wider spread of flame which I use in conjunction with an anodised aluminium pan.
If you are going to use titanium pans it is perhaps better to have a heating system based on a meths stove which has a gentler heat than gas.
12/04/2012 at 09:47

I do own a pocket rocket too. It's a nice gas burner and oké it it roars

But now if I have to buy a new one I would search for a compacter design like a foldable optimus crux.

Edited: 12/04/2012 at 09:48
12/04/2012 at 15:17
Zuma, FYI MSR have just launched a more compact version of the pocket rocket, appropriately called the micro rocket. There's significantly more space between the burner head and the top of the pan supports on it too, which should help with the 'welded food' effect.
Edited: 12/04/2012 at 15:18
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