Cheap lightweight large backpack.

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18/05/2012 at 02:49
hi there i am planning a large walking trip in the summer either in the alps or across the pyrenees. i am really trying to keep my kit as lightweight as possible, but also i am on a bit of a budget as i am a student. I already have tent (coleman kraz x1 1.6kg) and sleeping system (gelert extreme lite 1.2kg and karrimor X lite matress 325g) but am really struggling to find a bag that is cheap,light and large enough for the trip. thinking around 60L, 1kg (however upto 1.5kg is ok)and under £100 if possible. regards ben.
18/05/2012 at 03:12

There's the Golite Jam at under 1kg, you should easily be able to pick up one for less than £100 S/H, but i think they are 50lt, frameless too so not everyone gets on with them, i found it crippling to wear with any weight in it but others swear by them, they come in different back lengths too so be sure to look out for that also.

Can't think of any other load luggers that come  in under 1kg off hand.


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Edited: 18/05/2012 at 03:13
18/05/2012 at 03:18
Seems there's a 70lt one out there, went under my radar as i 'd rather carry a dead camel.

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18/05/2012 at 03:29

Just found the OMM Mountain mover too, seems you can "tailor" the weight between 1.6kg/600gr @ 55lt + 15lt.

Whilst i endevour to keep things as light as possible i do insist on a a good back system so totally ignore these type of packs, others here will be able to offer you a wealth of advice in actually using them that i can't.

Welcome to OM btw.


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18/05/2012 at 03:40
Golite Pinnacle: 70 litres weighing less than 1kg capable of 20Kg load.
18/05/2012 at 05:10
thanks for the advice guys, having serious trouble finding 70L and the pinnacle. but hopefully something will come up. (Y)
18/05/2012 at 06:21
Our masochist frameless pack faithful will be along when they get on the works pc's to provide linky's i'm sure , but do try and trial run any ones suggested if possible, as i said i'd rather take a couple of hundred grammes more for a back system, though i've spent quite a few years honing my kit so can go with a 35lt+ pack for any length of time in joyful comfort as i save weight/kit volume in other areas.

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18/05/2012 at 09:59

The Pinnacle has reverted to being the Jam 70 and is probably only now at ultralight outdoors gear (here.). Well maybe some spare stock elsewhere but the rest of their UK distribution is gone.

I would try and be realistic about how much weight you're going to be carrying though - pack frames do help with big loads and you can still get pretty light packs with some sort of frame system. 1.5kg will give you reasonable leeway, and even 2kg might not be a crazy percentage of your overall load.

Certainly try anything you're thinking of with a load in it in advance of setting off! Pack comfort is quite an individual thing.

18/05/2012 at 10:06

Looks like the Golite Pinnacle has now been replaced with a 70L version of the Golite Jam. 60L, 1kg and under £100....Would be good to know the estimated weight of your pack. If its anything like 20kg it might be worth considering a framed pack in which case 1kg might be impossible. Sounds like you are new to this and comfort is a big deal (for me anyway) when it comes to multiday trips....Even if you can find a pack that meets your specifications, you probably won't be able to try before you buy, which could be a really good idea!

Since we are talking lightweight large capacity backpacks on this thread I thought I would hijack this a little and ask what the best frame backpack for loads up to 22kg might be? At the moment I have and Osprey Aether but I have been considering a Golite Quest (1.5kg) to save 800g.

18/05/2012 at 10:12

Whatever lets you stand up and move reasonably comfortably I'd say

At that sort of load surely rational to be trying to cut the load down before the rucksack?

18/05/2012 at 10:27

The quest looks a good option, but I have had no problems with my Pinnacle.  The weight difference is about 600g (the Pinnacle is lighter).  To shave 600g off a tent or sleeping bag is costly.  I think that the cheapest form of saving weight in general tends to be rucksack. 

18/05/2012 at 11:15

Well the very cheapest is leaving stuff behind

The issue with rucksacks is that carry comfort genuinely is the important thing, over and above most other things. Now with smaller loads there's much more leeway to mantain that. 

But with big loads - like the 22kg one above say - a badly fitting rucksack will be very uncomfortable or even simply plain unsuable for any length of time. In fact for that sort of load I'd say that even +-1kg rucksack weight isn't terribly relevant, so long that is as are you're getting carry comfort for the weight!

(and not pointless 'features' etc.).

That latter is of course very far from guaranteed and certainly no reason not to try lighterweight things. I wouldn't call it a priority though.

18/05/2012 at 13:45
hi guys thankyou all for your input, much appreciated. In response to a few questions above, i have decided to do the gr10 walk in the pyrenees. i hope to do it in under 4 weeks which is 19+miles a day. i have done loads of walking in the past and have a large berghaus bioflex which is just to heavy. my plan is to take bare essentials and buy food only for a couple of days. my kit should look as follows (estimates of weight).
rucksack-?
tent-coleman kraz x1 stripped down weight 1.4kg
sleeping bag-gelert extreme lite 1.2g
sleeping matt-karrimor xlite 325g
cooking pot-172g
stove plus sheild-63g
meths 500ml-?
fleece-?
spare undwear socks-?
washkit-250
water-2kg
food-2.5kg
luxury items-400g
that gives a rough total of around 9kg. i cant really cut this down as i am travelling for a long time. Any thoughts about bag or regarding the kitlist are greatly appreciated. regards ben
18/05/2012 at 13:58

as martin says it's all about comfort.

you can carry 9kg like it isn't there and you can carry 9kg in hell.  a proper back and carry system more than repays any weight difference between packs.

18/05/2012 at 14:13
so what size do you think i should go for, as that could help me with the search a lot. thanks.
18/05/2012 at 14:13
How about rain/sun/snow protection, map, guide book, compass, 1st aid kit, torch,money,passport,credit cards, fire lighter....
18/05/2012 at 14:17

Pile up what you've got and see what it roughly takes for size   Quoted rucksack sizes actually far from standardised so it might be another thing you have to check.

I'd also concur with being a tiny bit unsure if you'll hit 9kg. 10/11 seems more likely but thats obviously still entirely managable.

18/05/2012 at 14:24
pedro, i will be wearing the jacket or have it on the outside of the bag if to hot, map is in luxury items as is money, passport, lighter and torch and compass worn round neck at all times.

martin, you are probably right 10/11 sounds more realistic, especially if i have to carry food for longer than expected.
18/05/2012 at 17:09

If you are looking at the Golite rucksacks second hand don't forget there are different back lengths used to be three with the Gust think there are only two now with the later models.I have a couple of Gusts but they are short backlength as I am only 5'6''.Only weigh 19oz I fitted them with 1'' foam instead of the 1/4'' foam backpad to stiffen the rucksack

Edited: 18/05/2012 at 17:14
18/05/2012 at 17:37
thanks for all the advice guys, after speaking to my dad, who has done the walk before, i have decided i only need a 50L bag. i would like to thank all of you for your imput it has been very helpful.
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