Cylindrical windshield script

beta testers wanted

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18/04/2012 at 12:52

Now that the Clone script is being hosted by ZenStoves I'm working on a script for a simple cylindrical windshield/pan support.  I've written the script, but I'm aware that there are a few potential issues, and it would be useful to have a few people try it out to find the problems with different pan and burner settings.

So, if any of OM's 'stovies' would like to help, drop me a PM.

Here's an example with a flissure split, and slot/tab vertical joint:

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/members/images/10187/gallery/windshield_0.jpg

[edit to to fix OM's failing image insertion]

Edited: 18/04/2012 at 17:54
19/04/2012 at 13:10
No takers, then?  You're all happy with your clones...?
19/04/2012 at 13:18
I'm still deleriously happy with my SBS... but if no-one else crumbles and offers to help... then feel free to put pressure on me. (I'm using an MSR Titan pot)
19/04/2012 at 17:00

I'd be happy to give it a go CP, but only on paper, as i have no ali left.

Any good. ?


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20/04/2012 at 04:23

Bump.

Come on guys, especially people who've taken advantage of CP's cone script, time to give something back, no. ?


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20/04/2012 at 13:36

Well, maybe I should take away the 'beta' rating, and just launch the thing as a released version...  I think it's pretty much debugged now.

It offers three vertical joint types:

my usual slot/tab
lap fell
'grip fell'

It has the usual programmability for pan, burner, holes, etc.

It will create a two-part shield that fits in the pan it supports, using a flissure joint as per the clone.

It ought to cope with most pan/burner combinations, as the logic to place the pan support stakes seems to work okay (it will put them in lower or upper half, as needed).

It will detect if the shield parts won't fit into the pan, and adjust the template accordingly, and will warn you if the stake placement is impossible.

It will be coming to ZenStoves.net as soon as Zen has time to write a JavaScript driver and add the script to his web pages.  It already features examples of an earlier version.

20/04/2012 at 14:26

A slight anomoly when working with the litech trek kettle.

 

http://i41.tinypic.com/23synuo.png

 

http://i40.tinypic.com/wmi4y.png

Unless it's my input. ?


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20/04/2012 at 14:56

All seems fine on assembly, though i trimmed the upper ends just a tad.

 

http://i44.tinypic.com/2ry6mx1.jpg

 

http://i41.tinypic.com/23nxci.jpg


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20/04/2012 at 15:13

Seems itdoesn't like my definitions for the Heiney keg, throwing up a 4 page template.

 

http://i42.tinypic.com/15z1kw1.png

 

http://i44.tinypic.com/m7yph1.png

 

http://i44.tinypic.com/1zvbndx.png

 

http://i43.tinypic.com/16m9bhs.png

 

http://i39.tinypic.com/5l5bbn.png


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b a
20/04/2012 at 19:35
What about using the pegs as the closure (through a large overlap)?
20/04/2012 at 19:54

I would reply, but i usually just cut things to fit.

What is a script?


 

20/04/2012 at 19:59
b a wrote (see)
What about using the pegs as the closure (through a large overlap)?
There's no need, the "closure" is built in.

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20/04/2012 at 20:00
Veronica from the suburbs wrote (see)

I would reply, but i usually just cut things to fit.

What is a script?

Referring to "the script" Mike, it's the post script software used to generate the template.

You never made a cone. ?


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20/04/2012 at 20:10

What is software?

Yip, i've made many a cone.


 

23/04/2012 at 12:47

twiglegs,

The Litech kettle issue looks like it's due to the handle opening being very wide (in this case, much wider than needed, but the point is valid more generally).  The script draws overlapping bits in the handle opening, each as wide as the handle opening.  I haven't drawn a line at the bottom of the upper section.   Should be easy to fix.

I probably need to think about flissure joints for the lap fell vertical joint, combined with a wide handle opening; the overlap is likely to hit the flissure joint, which would cause problems.  The alternative to the simple 'full handle width' overlap tab is perhaps half the opening plus a bit, since we certainly don't need the full width overlap; there's an assumption of trimming, as per the clone script.

The Heiney keg one is odd; can you send me the script.  Looks the the handle opening is tiny.  Try settign a huge media size in GSView, which will show the entire template on one page (but you won't be able to print it that size, obviously...).

The clone script is easier to paste together, becuase the curved edges make alignment position pretty obvious.  I'd forgotten that rectilinear shapes won't have this property, and I may need to add some other marks to show paste-up points.

Thanks.

Edited: 23/04/2012 at 12:53
23/04/2012 at 12:49

> What about using the pegs as the closure (through a large overlap)?

I'd thought of using the stakes to lock the shield together (even if a slot & tab joint is used).  I may add it as an option.

12/06/2012 at 12:39

As per the Clone script, the cylindrical script is now hosted on ZenStoves.

I've just sent an updated version which I'm sure Zen will put up at some time; it allows single-piece of flissure versions to be built, and tidies up some logic errors.

SD
12/06/2012 at 17:34

Although I did make a clone from CP's script, the pack stowage even with a caddy does not suit me. I did get tangled upmaking the caldera flissure mainly because I was not accurate enough with the cutting and measuring.

In working on the Caldera after testing I did realise that although it is still the best for saving on fuel the differences were minimal and not worth a lot more work especially with the metal not easy to source. 

I had previously made a flissure cylindrical windscreen for my Bushcookers alcohol stove set up, this does not use tags but a few simple cuts with hole at the end opposite each other -to both top and bottom pieces to link them together. I have also used document pins (paper holders)as pegs to hold the two halves together. Paper holders these are little brass pins from stationers -I have made myself similar pins but out of stronger metal)

The advantage with the cylindrical flissure is that it can fit in to my MSR Titan kettle.

12/06/2012 at 17:43

Cheers Captain - might give one a go for using with remote gas stove (using US flashing -which can stand the heat)

SD wrote (see)

The advantage with the cylindrical flissure is that it can fit in to my MSR Titan kettle.


 [i]My [/i]flissure Caldera Clone fits in the MSR Titan Kettle easily enough (Just saying in case anyone should get the wrong idea that Flissure Clones don't fit inside the pan - that's the point of the Flissure Cone Clone)

SD
12/06/2012 at 18:07
Sorry clouded the issue there, the Flissure Clone I made does fit in the pan was just bit sloppy all round -down to my skills.
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