Down Jacket options for deciding

which one?

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23/05/2012 at 19:10
here is the list......PHD Yukon, Rab Infinity, Mountain Hardwear Nitrous, Feathered Friends Helios Hooded, or Mountain Equipment Vega? reasoning too would be nice, not just the choice

I will be using for backcountry snow camping, backcountry snowboarding and backcountry winter stuff in general, maybe also for around town in cold places ...and i will be layering it under a Millet Golden Axe waterproof shell
23/05/2012 at 19:24
Sam Wyman wrote (see)

 ...and i will be layering it under a Millet Golden Axe waterproof shell


why?
23/05/2012 at 19:26
to keep me extra warm and safe from the elements, these jackets aren't really big enough to be warm by themselves to like REALLY cold weather! and that is irrelevant Addick
23/05/2012 at 19:43

No, its very relevant because you're contemplating doing something rather silly

Unless that waterproof shell is cut very strangely  you won't get close to getting most of those underneath it without hugely compressing their loft, and thus their warmth.

And the Yukon and the Helios are basically snow proof anyway so you'd really not be gaining anything in terms of compensation.

As it happens, most of the jackets are more than warm enough for most conditions. Much too warm if planning to use when active. The nitrous is the only one which might be halfway sane for such use.

23/05/2012 at 19:45

I think the point is that if it's cold enough to be active in any of them coats it will be unlikely to be wet.  Other than that I've never had to wear a down coat when on the move, even in Norwegian winters, unless it was walking the dog or around the doors at home & don't know any of those jackets so can't comment further

23/05/2012 at 19:48
ok so i can pack it and use it in camp and stuff for keeping warm when not active...
23/05/2012 at 19:52
can you guys help me choose between them please? fine i wont layer, whatever i will use it alone for ice climbing or when just in camp or walking around
23/05/2012 at 19:58
in that case the PHD. I have a couple of pieces of PHD stuff and must admit i was a bit dubious of thier capabilities at first but they are excellent.
23/05/2012 at 19:59
@Addick...can it pack down small, and is it not too heavy for loading into a Osprey aether 70?
23/05/2012 at 20:03

it's 450g and will pack down small.

It's not for UK use is it?

23/05/2012 at 20:04
nah im from the US lol i just made an account probably the only American here ....and i'll be in college next year in upstate NY and I want to live in Colorado or outwest!
23/05/2012 at 20:07
No you're not the only American
23/05/2012 at 20:08
glad im not
23/05/2012 at 20:11
Have a look here www.nunatakusa.com
Edited: 23/05/2012 at 20:12
23/05/2012 at 20:14

Sam - welcome to the Forum. Addick probably sussed that it wasn't for UK use by the language in your first post ('backcountry'), which is probably why he asked about your layering - our climate in the UK is very different to that in the US and what might be suitable in one place won't necessarily be suitable in the other.

I've got a Yukon down smock and love it. It does squash up pretty small, and I like having the removable hood on mine. But it's so warm I'd never be able to walk in it in the UK!

I can't recall if we've got other Americans on here, but we've a good number of British and Irish ex-pats living over there atm

23/05/2012 at 20:14

If you're American I would consider the FF jacket too - the Yukon probably is a little ahead in terms of warmth/weight (it is very good indeed on those terms) - but it won't be such an enormous difference and its from America so no exchange rate/shipping cost etc issues.

(or maybe one of their midweight jackets.).

Western Mountaineering's meltdown looks pretty similar too. Or yes local USA cottage industry.

Edited: 23/05/2012 at 20:15
23/05/2012 at 20:14
those seem really nice Addick but a little too expensive
23/05/2012 at 20:16
do you guys have other suggestions? just curious! and thanks alot Martin and Metric, that is very true!!!
23/05/2012 at 20:18
Metric Kate wrote (see)

I can't recall if we've got other Americans on here, but we've a good number of British and Irish ex-pats living over there atm


Don't forget Dan and his intercontinental moustache.
23/05/2012 at 20:28
Addick wrote (see)
 
Metric Kate wrote (see)

I can't recall if we've got other Americans on here, but we've a good number of British and Irish ex-pats living over there atm


Don't forget Dan and his intercontinental moustache.

(unfortunately there is no moustache smiley)
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