Expeds what do you take?

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16/06/2012 at 19:51

Hi what gear does everyone take on multiday expeds.

Sleeping bag, tent, roll mat etc.

what stove set up do you use, if you have time why? etc.

Please share

Annie

18/06/2012 at 14:39
depends on where ? uk ? if so sleeping bag ,mat,pillow.  tent or tarp first aid kit,camera,spare socks duct tape..for repairs. waterproofs warm cloths sun cream water filter gas can stove 1 pan 1 cup spork firesteel to light stove   food drinks hat gloves map compas book
18/06/2012 at 15:01

"it depends"

things that may influence include (but not limited to):

  • company
  • travel mode (paddling, walking, skiing etc.)
  • time of year
  • terrain
  • familiarity
  • what i'm planning (i.e., if it's a climbing trip I'll want a rope) 
  • how I'm feeling
  • resupply options

In other words, with so many variables one needs to pin down what sort of trip you're looking at to get useful info.

Pete.

18/06/2012 at 16:43
Only real difference for an overnighter to a few days trek for me is mainly extra clothes (also depends on season) and food. Thats in the uk. Tend to stick to either a gas stove, or sometimes a one person trangia.

Clothes and sleeping bag adjusted for wet/cold weather.

Tent: akto (or laser comp)
Bag: exos 58
Sleeping bag: alpkit pd400 (need to purchase a new one for winter)
Mat: exped ul7
Pillow: exped inflatable
Stove: primus gas or trangia 28
Pots: titan kettle and ti fry pan / trangia 28 pots
Clothes: depends on weather / season
18/06/2012 at 20:07

Depends on time of year and how long. The basics are:-

 Tent, Scarp 1

 Rucksack, size depends on time of year.

 Sleeping bag, rating depends on time of year.

 Mat, Exped, model depends on time of year.

 Exped pillow pump.

 Stove, Primus Omni or Optimus Crux

 Pot, Optimus Terra Nova with heat exchanger, either 1l or 1.5l.

 Spork, small bladed folding knife.

 Clothes, depends on time of year.

 Waterproofs.

 First Aid Kit.

 Map/s and compass.

 Emergency rations.

18/06/2012 at 21:54

The DofE kit list covers all bases. The quantities of items will vary and there are a few things you might want to add or remove, but it is a good starting point. I used it succesfully on my trips, with a few alterations. 

The type of sleeping bag, size of rucksack etc all depend on length, location and time of year. As for the stove set up, there's way too many options to cover, but the most popular lightweight solo option seems to be a small stove (gas or meths) with a kettle/pot and a windshield. 

18/06/2012 at 22:52
Hi guy basically its terrain and weather with the remit of summer ML with the old cooler trip in late nov time i ask as am trying lighten my load and was interested what everyone else would pack? Tent, bag, mat, stove n other gear?
19/06/2012 at 08:23

The DofE covers all bases except the ones it doesn't... i.e. no mention of ski wax, split paddles etc.  Plus you need to realise that covering 4 bases is not necessarily a superset of covering 1 or 2 bases because you may end up with too much stuff to succeed in the trip's aim.

Pete.

19/06/2012 at 09:38
Wouldn't someone doing ML have enough experience to have formed their own opinions on this?
19/06/2012 at 10:43

So torch you want to lighten your load. Well look at your own kit and weigh everything and write it down.

Next look at each piece carefully and decide do I really need it? If not throw it out.

Next look at each piece and think if you can use it double (double use) somehow. If so remove the other thing in your kit that can be replaced by a double use item. For instance walking pole versus tarp pole. Or big rain cover for a big backpack versus groundsheet under your mat.

Next look at your pieces in your kit which are the most heaviest. Find replacements which are as light as possible. For instance a synthetic sleeping bag swapping it for a high-tec ultralight down quilt with same temp specs.

With these steps you might win quickly some kg's

19/06/2012 at 10:46
Montgomery wick i do have my own opinions on what i take and have refined my pack of the years to make it exactly how i would like it have unlike some i am open minded to others opinions from their experiences and wanted to hear these from people i have not worked with.
19/06/2012 at 10:54

as am trying lighten my load and was interested what everyone else would pack?

I'd look at this working from your own experience to some degree.  So if you want to lighten your load you can start with two simple options: 1, leave out the stuff you're carrying which you don't use (or on reflection you might get by without); 2, replace key parts with lighter alternatives.

Do I gather from the first Q that you're concerned about your existing stove?  if so, what are you using and what are your functional requirements of a stove?  If you just want to boil water or heat a can of soup for one the answers are different to if you want to produce a gourmet picnic for a group.

Pete.
19/06/2012 at 10:56

and have refined my pack of the years to make it exactly how i would like it

and

am trying lighten my load

don't actually sit that well together...

19/06/2012 at 11:40
As others have said it really depends on quite a lot of factors. I have different sleeping bags, mats, clothes, packs etc. for different circumstances.

However the following would almost always come with me.

Cooking: Pocket Rocket with Optimus Terra weekend pans, titanium spork and an x-mug.Firesteel and disposable lighter,

Knife (either a swiss army or a petzl spatha)

Fox 40 whistle

map and compass

Petzl Tikka 2 w/spare batteries.

Stash of emergency food (sachets of fruit smoothies, chocolate, kendal mintcake, instant coffee or hot chocolate) separate from planned rations in a dry bag somewhere at the bottom of my bag.

Clothing: No matter what/where I'd have a buff, merino cap, liner gloves, Montane featherlite on or with me.

Black Diamond Trekking poles.

Pretty much everything else will vary.


19/06/2012 at 20:49
Sorry for the rant early bad day at work what i mean is i have acess to mainstream gear and was interested in what others use and if this leads to a lighter pack hurray

I currently use:
Pocket rocket with msr titan kettle canister feet and lighters
A tundra pure and dry -30 all year round as i sleep very cold
Hilleberg akto
Neoair
Osprey kestral 68

Just interested as depending on where u are u have access to different gear my stuff all come from big companys but im interested in small ones like the great reviews crux have an am tempted by one as thats another 500g lighter sorry for not be that clear
19/06/2012 at 20:58
Peter Clinch wrote (see)

The DofE covers all bases except the ones it doesn't... i.e. no mention of ski wax, split paddles etc.  Plus you need to realise that covering 4 bases is not necessarily a superset of covering 1 or 2 bases because you may end up with too much stuff to succeed in the trip's aim.

Pete.

Thanks - that's a good point. I was assuming that the kit would be for walking, but as you say, different activities will need different things.

Torchwood: As others have said, lightening your load will need two approaches: taking out anything you don't need (because it's unecessary or another item will do the job) and finding lighter weight kit.

You'll need to decide on certain things: are you happy to use a small screw on gas stove just for boiling water or will you want a larger, more stable stove? Cost is an important factor: is it worth shelling out loads for a very small weight saving? 

I guess that I follow a conventional approach, in that I use a tent, not a tarp and use a gas stove. However, I'm always looking for ways to lighten the load. I won't bother uploading my personal kitlist as it hasn't got anything unusual and the brands aren't relevant unless you want a specific recommendation. 

19/06/2012 at 22:10

I've posted a kit list as you may have read.

 I have got my full winter walking kit for a 3 day trip down to 12kg including food and 2l of water.

 As others have said, I've done so by getting rid of things I don't use, or can double up.

 Getting lighter gear, mostly, down bag, lighter tent, down camp wear, LW rucksacks and planning meals so I don't take much more than I need.

 I do take a few extras, food wise, as can get a bit boring eating same thing every day.

 I take dehydrated food, of different flavours, so not eating the same one each day. I also take the likes of mini salami/pepperami to add to meal.

 Sometimes if I get Lidl's own brand rice meals, they are more than I can eat at night. I'll keep the rest for breakfast, with maybe some cheese and oatcakes.

20/06/2012 at 04:17
I'm open minded enough to use a Crux AK70. Good points? Light, only one big compartment, water resistant, comfy even with big loads despite the minimal harness.

Bad points: if the lid extension collar is exposed, water gets in - and doesn't get out; overly complex lid attachment makes removal problematical. Little in the way of external stowage options, reflecting its primary purpose as a climbing sack. The wand pockets are too small and tight to be of much use. The lid zipper on mine has failed - due to trying to cram more in than it could hold, admittedly, but that's because there's nowhere else to put it. One shoulder strap is showing signs of pulling away from where it attaches at the top after 18 months' use, despite never getting near the stated max. load.

That sounds overly critical. In fact I like the pack, but would prefer something with bigger, elasticated wand pockets and some kind of hipbelt pouches. The packs from the sister company Lightwave might be better for my purposes, although I don't like split compartments.
20/06/2012 at 05:13
MW - Lightwave Ultrahike 60 is single-compartment. One lid pocket but no hip-belt pockets.
20/06/2012 at 05:16
Yeah, it's the 70l Wildtrek I was looking at.
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