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Ian Chalmers
20/12/2003 at 20:31
My second pair of Berghaus Storm GTX boots have sprung a leak. Yes, my first pair also sprung a leak. The annoying thing is that the outers and sole are in pretty good nick, regularly proofed etc, but the boots are useless in the wet. As the boots are over a year old and were a replacement for the first leaky pair Berghaus aren't interested. Can anyone recommend a waterproof boot which does not rely on the 'bootee' design?
Thanks and Merry Christmas to all.
Ian
Richard Watkiss
23/12/2003 at 12:14
Erm, nope.

But I can recommend the low tech version - a pair of olde worlde dubbed leather boots with a pair of the Berghaus stretch g-tex socks over your hiking socks. Never fails - multiple redundancy on the proofing front. And if you wear the socks out you don't need to buy new boots. And if you wear the soled out you don't need to buy new socks. Cunning huh?

And my feet've never overheated this way neither, which they always seemed to do in the g-tex salomons I used to have.

And happy Bah Humbug to you too.
Richard Watkiss
23/12/2003 at 12:15
"Wear the soled out"? B*ll*cks - too much eggnog. "Wear the soles out" of course
John Moore
24/12/2003 at 20:30
What about fell running shoes (or even cheap trainers) with either winter or summer quality waterproof socks?

Happy Xmas

Ian Chalmers
27/12/2003 at 13:44
Thanks Messers Git & Moore, waterproof socks had crossed my mind using the current boots (??) but I thought that waterproof socks in duff GTX boots would be too sweaty for words. Or noses for that matter. Got my leather winter boots to keep me going at the moment and the sales are on.......
The Monk
27/12/2003 at 13:54
last Berghaus waterproof jacket I bought was a load of crap, I won`t use them again!
Kieran Foster
28/12/2003 at 22:02
"Can anyone recommend a waterproof boot which does not rely on the 'bootee' design?"



Simple recommendation - Lundhags


Best boots I've ever used

kie
Lloyd Bower
28/12/2003 at 22:24
I could recommend Brasher Ridgemasters, they do have a goretex lining, but it's between another leather layer and is hard wearing, and IMHO will last the life of the boot.
Mine are just begining to wear out, and haven't seen them sold anywhere recently.
Ron Clay
28/12/2003 at 23:26
Kieran,

How much do these boots cost?
The Monk
29/12/2003 at 08:36
Planning on doing some walking then Ron?
Ron Clay
29/12/2003 at 13:53
I've alway wanted a good pair of walking boots that are waterproof and support my ankles.

Will be ideal for those long walks down the Trent Bank.

Now how much are they?
Evil Genius Darren
29/12/2003 at 13:55
how long is a piece of string? Anything from £30 upwards. You get what you pay for though.
Ninja Marmot
29/12/2003 at 13:55
£40ish in the Snow and Frock sale.
Or more if you're not a cheapskate.

We're mostly cheapskates round here.
Kieran Foster
29/12/2003 at 18:01
Ron, the Lundhags are NOT cheap, they start at £150 a pair...

However the quality is above and beyond anything I have ever used - I wore a pair daily for deer management, day in and day out for voer a year and they looked as good as new, with very little maintenance.

warm in winter, cool in summer - totally waterproof up to the top, hard as nails.

Plus the wool felt insoles are the dogs dangly bits, get two pairs and keep a spare on the radiator for cold mornings... mmm, toasty.

Have a look over on the penrith survival equipment link just to the left of this post if I have got this right... Dont know if anyone else does them but I got my first pair there (when it was survival aids) 12 years ago - and theyre still going strong!!!

kie
The Monk
30/12/2003 at 07:26
£150 not bad Ron considering what we pay for the rest of our gear, I think I paid about £100 for my boots, one of our most used pieces of kit really!
paul williams 2
30/12/2003 at 20:09
Keep this one going please......i did a 20(ish) miler yesterday and my old miendl's must be breaking down cos i got a bloody sock from some internal stiching.
I don't want gtex lined, just a good boot that is ( can be made) as waterproof as poss ( my old ones never gave me wet feet and they were not gt lined)....and can take a crampon at a push.......had a look in a couple of shops today and everything is lined.......and is this " heel to toe roll" thing just another sales pitch or does it make a difference?
Orange Alex Ford
30/12/2003 at 20:21
Paul, it all depends on how they fit.

Forget all the features and how much things cost; if the boots fit and feel good then buy them.

Forgive me if this is at all patronising...It's not meant to be.

When buying, as most people will say -

try on in the shop for a while,

go shopping in the afternoon (when your feet have expanded to their biggest - foot size varies during the day),

try on with YOUR OWN socks - the one's you'll be wearing when using the boots

if you have any special insoles try them in the shop with the boots too

ditto if you aleady have some cramp-ons

ask the shop if they'll take them back if you've tried them out at home, but not gone outside, and then try them at home for an hour or so

Be prepared to listen to all manner of bullsh!t from the salesmen.

Maybe a pair of bog-standard Scarpa SL's would be a good idea. They fit "most" people and are occasional crampie boots. And they are unlined.

Hope that helps.
The Monk
30/12/2003 at 22:08
Alex, I only really got into walking towards the end of last year and my main endevours have been the PW, indeed I`ve managed to get up as far as Hawes this year. The boots I bought are leather and have served me well, I did however, on advice, get a larger size than I needed and packed them out with a pair of thick socks and a pair of shock absorbing in soles. Although the boots felt comfortable, I have been getting a lot of black toe nails (my avarage walks are about 20 miles per day)

As the wintery months have set in, I`ve not been doing as much walking, anf my toe nails have gone back to normal (this may sound like a wind up, but its not)

are black and lost toe nails peculiar to walkers?
paul williams 2
30/12/2003 at 22:09
Cheers Alex..........i'll take a look at them.....still keep it coming, it's the one thing i have nightmares about.....being in the middle of nowhere with bad fitting/problematic boots..........my socks soaked in blood days are over, if i have anything to do with it!!!
Orange Alex Ford
30/12/2003 at 23:02
Dude, I have never had black/bleeding toenails, but then I cut my toe nails really short...maybe that's what you need to do?

My problem is really sweaty feet which then go all manky. Once described as "Bleaklow feet" that's what they look like underneith, like they have been in the bath for about 6 hours, and that's wearing none-lined boots and Merino socks. Mind you ..they could sweat in a pair of flip-flops!

I dunno.
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