GPS recommendation

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22/09/2011 at 15:16
Hi guys,

I am considering buying a GPS. I used to using an Android phone with Google map to navigate most of time in city/town or areas with Internet access. I really like the functionality of Goolge map (like zoom). Though I know it's may not be feasible in stand alone GPS. I am planning some real cross country hiking in area without Internet access, so planning a 'real' GPS. I don't wanna fancy stuff which are innecessarily expensive. Don't wanna too simple or elementry level staff (considering I have been using Google map all the time). I am really new to this and any idea is welcomed.

Nian
22/09/2011 at 15:24

Hello Nian; if you're already using an Android phone, then it's probably worth looking into Viewranger, a mapping software designed for use on mobile phones. I have it on my HTC mobile and it's a cracking program. You can get it with 1:50k national parks of the UK at a pretty reasonable rate, and then buy additional maps should you need them, eg: 1:25k.

However, don't forget to take a paper map with you too and the knowledge to use it - mobile phone batteries get eaten up pretty quickly when the GPS is on!

22/09/2011 at 15:43
Im not a fan of phone based applications as if the battery goes then you have lost 2 important tools, your phone and your map.

A standalone GPS is the best in my opinion.

I use a Satmap (owned a few different types and rate this a sthe best by far) as my primary means of nav but carry a paper map and compass (and the ability to use them) as a back up.

That said I have a lot of friends who use the phone apps and each to his own I guess.

I know you are looking at doing this cheaply but the old addage rings true, Buy cheap buy twice.
22/09/2011 at 16:15
Thanks for the reply.

Viewranger seems interesting if it does not need internet access. I am going to have a try.

On the other hand, as you all pointed, a mobile has battery problem and also not water resistant. So I probably still need a GPS anyway. I am not going for cheap ones, instead, I am going for best value (max £300). Any specific model ? Cheers.
22/09/2011 at 16:18
In that case, what the WelshDragon said - Satmap Active 10. Try and get the one that comes with full UK 1:50k mapping.
22/09/2011 at 17:52

Satmap is good as is the memorymap GPS too. IF you can get hold of the last Trail magazine (and trust their opinions too) then I think it has GPS comparison between 6 different models that most of them fit your price range. They will all do what you would want with them. I think it is this last issue (although the new one might be out today with it being a thursday near the end of the month) but could be the one before.

I think TGO also did a review lately.

Check out their websites as the reviews should be online now. Of course this site will get you to your ideal product sooner with all the helpful people on here. Plus the excellent reviews too. Then when you find one you want try and click on the retailer links from this site too as you might find a good deal for what you need from them and the site gets a kickback which keeps the site free to read everything. (Is that enough kiss arse after suggesting the OP go to another site?)

22/09/2011 at 17:58
another vote for satmap
22/09/2011 at 19:44

Thanks for the replies, very informative.

One question about the map. I know maps of other countries/areas can be bought. How about the map quality and price between major brands (Satmap, Garmin as far as I know). Another question is which brand has most maps available? I may travel to Europe and Asia (Nepal, India, China), maybe more I hope...

Cheers.

22/09/2011 at 23:34

It was the Trail magazine out now in the shops that did the 6 GPS comparison piece. YOu have a week to get it to find out what they reckon is the best.

I know a few people who have the satmap. IIRC there are two versions, well less versions more kits. One with a protective plastic screen cover and one without I think. I wasn't really listening to the guy telling me nor the guy next to him who also had his satmap out tryoing to get me interested in one. Zzzzzzzzz! Seriously there is nothing worse than a satmap bore. Anyway from the short period I was actually awake when they were talking to me about the satmap you want the active one and make sure you get the plastic cover. It is kind of a clear plastic cover with a frame to it that clicks into place on the satmap covering the screen in a way that makes it look like it should always have been there. Can be used without but it is £300 of kit so might as well make it stay fresh with the cover.

All good kit mentioned above so I think if you get up to the high £200s you will have something that will do what you want. Check out the lowrance kit. Lowrance in USA has a significantly higher market share than over here. IIRC Lowrance is actually a bigger GPS supplier than the main players over here with a bigger market share. They also make marine kit too including sonar, depth beeper thingies and fish finders as well as GPS units. As such they are a big electronics manufacturer. They also tend to be cheaper over here (or at least they used to be). Anyway when they hit the market a few years ago with a budget and higher spec GPS they kick started cheaper GPSs (without compromising quality and performance). At the time the budget Etrex GPS was something like £130 but the Lowrance equivalent (with 14 channels not 12 channels, more waypoints and routes that can be saved so slightly better specs) came out onto the market costing £89. £40 saving was significant I reckon and shortly afterwards the Garmin etrex was also £90. Made me curious as to how GArmin were able to make large savings on their units so quickly after a new (to our area market) competitor came out with a cheaper equivalent product!! If I was cynical I'd think they had a huge mark-up and were ripping off their customers, but I'm not a cynic.

Not sure about mapping but I'd have thought that a bigger name (garmin, magellan or even Lowrance) might have more chance of overseas maps than newer entrants like satmap but that is conjecture on my part.

23/09/2011 at 00:35
What you could also consider is the Viewranger option MK mention, plus an Aquapac case (about £20) and a battery extender (I saw one for £4 in Asda). Additional spend (including the Viewranger app) is only about £50. Personally I have been using the equivalent (currently I use an HTC Pro Touch 2 running WM6 and memory map)with a windows phone for a while and have never had a problem. I use an old Magellan gps as a backup (and carry a map and compass), but have rarely needed to use it.
23/09/2011 at 06:51
If you are travelling to Asia or areas without much extant digital mapping you might wish to consider units which will allow you to add your own 'custom' maps - paper maps scanned, geometrically corrected, and uploaded to a mapping GPS.
23/09/2011 at 09:38

Not competely sure but I think I read a comparison on costs between GPS systems and mapping costs. There was something about viewranger being cheaper for the software for your phone (assuming you don't need to buy a phone) but the mapping builds up the cost quicker. What I mean IF you need the full 50k or 25k scale maps in the UK it is not really that much cheaper despite the fact you are only paying for the software with the viewranger. IIRC satmap works out about the same with the full set of maps and the handheld unit. If you have to get battery extenders and the like then perhaps viewranger is more expensive in the long run.

Just something else to think about...the cost of the maps you need as well as the unit.

23/09/2011 at 09:40
Thanks everyone. In fact I have read a lot about GPS comparison but I will try to get the Trail magazine (reading magazine is more fun than reading from internet).

And I did tried the viewRanger. It looks nice. Amazingly it has all the UK national parks and many trails (of course need to pay to download). I am gonna have a try with it this weekend. Cheers.
23/09/2011 at 09:43
Nian zhang wrote (see)
 
(reading magazine is more fun than reading from internet).

Well I'm offended!!

<goes off in a huff>

That's a short post for me!

23/09/2011 at 12:43
Hoho, Lost in Lancashire, You know I don't mean that. Your information is very helpful for me. Actually I saw some GPS and they are really pricy (£400 or more). There are basic ones without map, which I won't consider. So only intermediate ones will be my target with enough but not fancy features. But I may wait until I go for some serious multi day trekking. Cheers.
23/09/2011 at 16:17

If you are on a budget, consider the Garmin Dakota.

It is compact and offers full mapping with a touch screen and all the other features you could probably want. Will even function as a basic satnav abroad.

25/09/2011 at 23:15

Nian  - one of my mates had the Sat map and reckoned it fell apart after a short time!!

Bit of advice. Once you've decided which one you want see if they do it at Go-Outdoors and then find a price match. I got the Memory Map 3500 plus 1:50k for £299 instead of £360 but had to swap it  - long story dont ask - so got a Garmin GPSmap62s plus mapping for £320 instead of 399. 

Check out www.handtec.co.uk or www.pentagongps.co.uk for some good deals. Aslo Uttings Outdoors were doing the Sat Map plus uk1:50,000 for £329 a couple of weeks ago - might still be on if you're going down that route. 

26/09/2011 at 09:44
Thanks Scunnered, Craig H. I have taken a note on your suggestions.

But guess what, I tried ViewRanger this weekend on cateran trail(part of it) in Scotland and it's very nice! Just buy the trail then load it and follow the route. I haven't use other software or stand alone GPS so can't compare, but it seems suffices my current requirements. Thanks, Metric Kate.
27/09/2011 at 19:58

i have viewranger on my andriod, i got all of the uk  for about 80quid i think!.

then just carry a backup battery and your laughing.

why bother with a standalone gps/camera/phone when you can get one device to do it all!!.

keep your eye on the magazine ad's. veiwranger put out discount codes.

02/05/2012 at 13:09
Hi everyone,

I saw the previous posts and I was wondering if you could help me with the following issue:

Is it possible to import, in a mobile-GPS, your own geo-referenced map and use it with Viewranger like ED H suggested (to the mobile-GPS instead of a normal GPS)?

Thanx in advance
Sak
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