Lighten Up!

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15/05/2002 at 16:02
Bob are you saying that NTL world is still FREE as in FREE FREE? cos they emailed us (me and the house) saying that it was no longer going to be totally free i.e. pay monthly or as you go!
and so I went to AOL after getting fed up of being chucked off after two hours no matter what!
15/05/2002 at 16:21
Well
(I'm answering for Bob here as I'm home first....)
we pay £5 per month now (came in April) but that's it. Zip all else...apart from £2 for the rent of the extra phone line. And we stay on for hours....waddya mean you've noticed?!!!!!!
15/05/2002 at 16:57
David just hoping it comes out of a ghyll and not straight from heaven!
15/05/2002 at 19:42
you got a good deal man I'm on ntl triple dig package BUT NTL world when we got it had an anyonying feature CUT OFF AFTER 2HOURS!!!!!!!! no way of avoiding it!
so now I'm with AOL and I get a much better connection speed and service as well!
15/05/2002 at 20:23
For how many notes?
15/05/2002 at 20:39
I like AOL. Apart from the browser, software, IM's from strange people, Spam, fact that I occasionally lose emails due to it being web-based.

All that for £15 a month...bargain!

BUT I can access my email from anywhere, stay on FOREVER with no automatic cut off, chat to mates using the IM system. And everyone in the family to have separate accounts with total safety to let the kids use the internet without any worries.
15/05/2002 at 21:00
Auto cut off is annoying. BT do it too.
16/05/2002 at 00:25
Alex I see i'm not the only one who gets spam and WIERD im's from very strange people then that is a relief! odly enough only one of my screen names seems to get spammed!
16/05/2002 at 23:00
15 dockers a month with AO-hell? you can get broadband for that price with ntl.

Most ISPs have a combination of webmail & email - just visit your ISPs homepage and look for the login username & password stufff
16/05/2002 at 23:13
David...yeah...only one of my accounts gets it too...Mrs F's is spam and IM's free!
16/05/2002 at 23:43
i get em...of strange girls
16/05/2002 at 23:45
LOL lucky you!
16/05/2002 at 23:55
I'm sick of being offered viagra and visits to sites filled with Asian Sl**s on heat. Only on the main identity.....

I don't wanno know boys!!!!!!


Nor do I want a penile implant......I don't have one for a start.........
17/05/2002 at 01:10
Bagga mate I know you can get Broadband from NTL for that price but I am fed up of being mucked around by NTL and constantly having "service" problems plus the cost for me to go to broadband aint worth the hassle as I'd either have to rent or buy the calbe modem etc!
Si
17/05/2002 at 10:12
Try Pipex, they've got a modem exchange offer on at the mo. Don't know any mor details though. Sorry.

Si(C)
17/05/2002 at 10:43
ta anyway mate
23/05/2002 at 23:02
I thought I'd rekindle this thread in light of the lighten up article. The article looks a bit extreme to me - as if traveling light equates to phobias of sorts. Perhaps that is because in the UK it is easy to drive to the venue, walk a couple of hours with a daysack and return home in time for the evening news. In that sort of circumstance travelling light is optional but not really a necessity.

If you are going to be out hiking/walking/camping for a longer period of time traveling light is not really optional - it is a necessity. But that is not to say that it becomes an impractical obsession. In fact, if you set off overburdened the chances are that you will ditch kit no matter what it cost - if it is not needed & too cumbersome it will go!

Dont go light, go smart! Another equally important point is to walk correctly. Big louping steps may mean that the vertical displacement of your rucksack is 4" greater than with smaller steps. Work it out - a 15kg rucksack displaced by an extra 4" EVERY step is the same as picking up & putting down a 15kg weight with every step. Over a 12 mile day that is a heck of a lot of kit to shift. On a more positive point though - it doesn't half toughen up the old midrift!

big BAGA
24/05/2002 at 08:45
Oh mate, it's that sort of calculating loads over a series of steps that alientates people. The bottom line, and it's very easy to understand, is that it's easier and less tiring to walk with a lighter rucksack than a heavier one - it's self evident really, you don't need to justify it all with scientific evidence. Oh, your stride-length argument is flawed since you forgot to factor in the extra weight lifted over the additional number of shorter steps you'll have to take. If you were correct, you could simply take pigeon steps and the result would be near effortless progress. Erm, I don't think so...

The main factor with stride lenght in reality is that if you overstride on the flat, it's mechanically inefficient because you're actually braking slightly with every over-extended step. On the uphills over-striding is harder because you're having to lift more weight with every step, but that's generally true regardless of your pack weight, on downhillsit's conversely the case that understriding is often harder because you're braking and using muscle power to stop momentum whereas in reality you should try to utilise that forward motion. It's discussions like this etc...

Anyway, it's true, obsessive lightweight packers are weird and cult like. The point I was trying to make is that you can save weight without being some sort of fanatic.

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com 

24/05/2002 at 13:43
The only way to sort it sensibly I've found is to actually do plenty of backpacking and then at the end of the trip ditch ruthlessly anything which wasn't used or could be substituted.

On our last trip my 'luxury of choice' was to take 4 mugs instead of 2 so we could drink wine without having to walk to the stream to wash out the soup. (One of my jobs is to carry crockery/cutlery) The mugs weigh very little so I thought it was a good sacrifice. What I forgot was the form and volume, even though I stuffed them with socks, food etc, they are a difficult shape to pack and don't tesselate.

I won't do that again - in fact to be really anal we could share the one mug....


...which means I either have to suffer Earl Grey tea (yuk) or Bob indulges in PG tips. (which he likes)

mmmmmmmmm food for thought.
24/05/2002 at 14:05
wot's wrong with Earl Grey? It's the favourite in the Ford household...fairtrade of course.

It's the tops!



(or should that be..."the TIPS")
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