Living outdoors for the summer - tent advice?

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03/06/2012 at 19:57

Hi folks. This is the first post I have made on the site. I would really appreciate your views on a tent I can live in for two or three months this summer. I will be working as a volunteer at an outdoor centre in the Midlands, camping in a nearby field. 

I've been looking round local camping shops this weekend but the range of tents on show is fairly limited -  mainly Vango and some cheaper brands. Size-wise, something like the Vango Alpha 250 would probably be perfect for me - very roomy inside - but it's marketed as a festival tent and I'm unsure whether it will stand up to a whole summer out.

So I am wondering whether it might be better to pay a bit more and go for a proper backpacking tent that will give me better protection from the elements. This has the added advantage that I could also take it backpacking if the urge took me in the future. I can't tell how likely this is - I do a lot of hiking but up to now have mostly stayed in YHAs, huts and the like.

I was looking at the Vango Banshee today. It's a nice tent but I wonder whether a couple of months living in the relatively small-sized 200 would drive me mad.

If anyone can suggest a good tent for my needs, I would be grateful! As I am currently unwaged, the relatively cheap cost of the Alpha 250 tends to swing things that way, but I could break into my savings if need be.

Many thanks!!

03/06/2012 at 20:03
I think living in an Alpha 250 for 2-3 months would drive me nuts with the relative lack of space, it wasn't great for just a couple of weeks when excavating when I was a student, and if you can fork out a bit more for a Beta 350 you'd get good living space which is important if you're working from a tent.
03/06/2012 at 20:33
i think if your doing a 2-3 month stint in a tent id look for something which you could stand up in, if cost is a issue take a look on ebay.
Edited: 03/06/2012 at 20:41
03/06/2012 at 20:50
Thanks both of you. Very useful to get a recommendation from someone who has already "been there, seen it and done it". I've checked out the spec of the Beta 350 and I could probably stand up in it (well, just, but I am very short).
03/06/2012 at 21:46
If your properly living in it- i.e not just sleeping, perhaps a big old frame tent, you'll be able to pick an old one up cheap- I imagine there are a multitude of people who have one up in the loft- I certainly do. Then you can put home comforts in there, if I were doing this I would want a camp bed,a chair and a table.
GOF
03/06/2012 at 22:43
I have spent a few "seasons" - 6 weeks at a time - living in a tent. perfect world - Go for a big old frame tent, have one side as a bedroom, the other as a living/storage/just want a bit of piece and quiet space. DONT go for anything you cant stand up in comfortably.
GOF
03/06/2012 at 22:50
GOF wrote (see)
 DONT go for anything you cant stand up in comfortably.

david dolan wrote (see)
 look for something which you could stand up in,


Make that 3 votes for being able to stand up in it.

Alternatively, if standing up really isnt an issue, My car camping tent is a Robens dreamer (currently in offer at Cotswold Outdoor)

It's meant to be 3 man, but a very comfortable 2 man. High enough to be able to kneel up in for getting dressed etc and a huge porch,

Reasonable venting and 5000 HH for the great British summer

Solid poles aswell, unlike so many budget models

03/06/2012 at 22:59

A frame tent 2nd-hand would be my choice too; in fact it was when I had to spend 6 weeks doing a similar thing to what you intend. They often come with other useful things, mine had an airbed, two burner cooker and grill, gas bottle, and a car battery 'hook up' - all great to have.

After the project I sold it for a small profit.

04/06/2012 at 11:56
Do you know, it hadn't even occurred to me that I could buy a tent specially for the summer and then sell it. Goodness, I am thick sometimes. Magic idea. Thank you!!
04/06/2012 at 12:10

If you're not convinced yet that something with standing room is more important than something you can backpack with at some unspecified point in the future, I'll suggest that something with standing room is more important than something you can backpack with at some unspecified point in the future.

Backpacking works better with low carrying weight and bulk, neither of which matter a damn for several weeks parked in the same place.  Both tend to lead to relatively small space, which is Bad News for living unless you're  incredibly neat and organised and minimalistic.

and a car battery 'hook up' 

Rough idea of a pal's call to the AA after a fridge drained her car battery...

"What's the problem?" ; "my battery is flat" ; "where is the vehicle?" ; "It's at the Red Squirrel campsite in Glencoe" ; "Was it one of those fridges?"

Don't forget they do go flat...

Pete.

04/06/2012 at 16:10

!!! Thanks, Pete, and all of you who have offered suggestions. Yes, you have convinced me.

I am very small and incredibly neat, but I must have been mad to think I could live for two months in a Banshee.

There are lots of suitable looking frame tents on ebay - could be a good time to list if you are thinking of selling one.

Best wishes everyone.

04/06/2012 at 16:49
Also if it is in summer I would sleep on an airbed- or I know they are s**t for insulation but if your going in summer shouldn't be an issue and so much comfier than a foam or self inflating.
04/06/2012 at 17:53
I see that Field & Trek are offering the Vango Icarus 300 (1.65m high, so standing room for me at 5ft 1in) for £105 postage paid in their bank holiday sale. Or should I hold out for the possibility of a cheap frame tent on ebay? Any advice? Thanks!
GOF
04/06/2012 at 18:24
Probably a touch smaller than I thought of - when I have been out with DoE its really nice to be able to get a table and chairs under - and the Icarus seems a bit small for that.

I'd be more along this line

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-4-MAN-HOLIDAY-CAMPING-TENT-FRONT-DOOR-TWO-ROOMS-OUTDOORS-TRAVEL-GLAMPING-PVC-/110872674378?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_HikingCamping_Tents_JN&hash=item19d086c04a#ht_1797wt_1139

at this price its pretty much disposable

or this beast

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Large-Canvas-Frame-Tent-4-5-Birth-/251073163992?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_HikingCamping_Tents_JN&hash=item3a752072d8#ht_1217wt_916
GOF
04/06/2012 at 18:44
Thanks, that's really helpful. Will keep my eyes open over the next two weeks, then.
04/06/2012 at 18:46
If you're keeping the tent pitched for a number of months, it would be worth getting some cheap tarpaulin to protect it from UV which ages the plastic. It's less of a problem with our typical summers, but it may be something you might want to think about.
05/06/2012 at 11:11
Bear in mind you'll need to move the tent every three days or so, or you'll kill the grass it's on. If it was me I'd go with whatever tent came to hand, plus a big, cheap tarp for general shelter. That way, absolute tent size wouldn't be a huge issue.
05/06/2012 at 11:46
My daughter is an archaeologist, some years back we bought her a largish nylon tent when she was a student and she spent the summer on a dig. It fell to pieces from UV degradation.
It will be heavier but you may be better with a canvas tent.
06/06/2012 at 11:50

As you keep on 1 place you're far better off with a cotton/canvas-type of tent. It's less humid (less prone to condensation), more room and standing height. I'm a great fan of tipi designs and luckily there are many 1 pole tipi designs in cotton and polycotton. Polycotton is less prone to keep staying wet for a long time.

 A bonus with tipi's is they always can fit a woodstove in it....

ask around here about tipi's:

songofthepaddle.co.uk

06/06/2012 at 11:55
Polyester suffers much less from UV degradartion than nylon.
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