Looking for an Exos alternative

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05/06/2012 at 11:01
I used my Osprey Exos 34 for a 3 day hike but i had pain in the shoulders propably because of the thin shoulder straps. The same happened in the upper left and right part of my back and bottom of the the frame where it touched my body( maybe because of the lack of padding in these areas). I intend to buy a bigger rucksack and i am looking something with a bit more protection and with the same breathable backas the Exos. One that i found id the North Face Alteo, although much heavier than the Exos. What is your opinion on the Alteo compared to the Exos and if you have any other suggestions. Thanks!
05/06/2012 at 11:51

No specific suggestions - beyond trying rucksacks with weight in and getting what's comfortable. There appear to be all sorts of ways in which a priori totally blameless rucksacks can fail to do that.

Like your Exos it seems. In principle you aren't actually meant to be taking very much weight on the shoulder straps at all - and especially not with the sort of loads you can fit into a 34L sac.

So thin straps should be totally fine, but won't be so good if you're not getting weight real transfer to the hip belt. That (and the rest) makes it sound fairly like the height was out somehow. It happens!

05/06/2012 at 13:25

OP, you dont' say how much weight you had in the Exos but at 34L, it couldn't have been that much.

As Martin says, properly adjusted, you shouldn't have much weight borne by the shoulder straps anyway; most of it should be on the hips.  You mention pain in the shoulders, upper and lower back; to generate this level of discomfort with only a 34L pack, it must fit appallingly badly.

05/06/2012 at 19:31

ive an exos 48 and its the comfiest rucksack ive ever used backpacking. this with 4 days food and all the other shite. maybe you got the wrong size.......?

05/06/2012 at 19:48

Maybe try a frameless pack?

I hate framed packs, as i always seem to find that some part of the rigid frame digs in someplace.


 

06/06/2012 at 00:26
Thanks for the replies. Forgot to say that after the second day , i felt much better in my lower back where the frame was touching. But the discomfort in the shoulders and upper left and right part of my back remained. The stuff i had in my rucksack was a Vaude power Lizard a montbell UL super spiral down hugger #3 sleeping bag, exped UL 2.5 SIM lite sleeping pad, floor protector, some bars, a small book, 2 food cans of 280g each, a headtorch, small digital camera, small bottle of 120ml contact lenses liquid and some ither light stuff.  Idon't think the total weight was over 6.5kg or 7 max. Martin what do you mean by "height was out somehow"?
06/06/2012 at 03:44
Martin means perhaps you got the wrong size .
The exos comes in small/medium/large versions, but the back harness is not adjustable. The similar sack the Talon has an adjustment available at the harness, along with
some other differences, but also slightly more weight.
Personally, I find my exos 46 very comfortable, and prefer the airflow system to that on the Talon.
06/06/2012 at 10:06

Yes, and those sizes affect the length of the frame in the back system. Could easily be getting both your issues from that.

Firstly any design with a curved back panel has an obvious threat of pressure/pain at the top and bottom corners if it doesn't fit right. Clearly it doesn't happen to everyone or they'd not make them

The other thing is the shoulder pain - if the length isn't right you won't be transfering the weight to the hip belt properly and so your shoulders will be taking much more of the strain than they should be. (It should be very little with this sort of load.).

It is of course quite possible that no length of Exos would suit you. But it does sound like more like misfit than padding per se.

06/06/2012 at 13:55
Mike fae Dundee wrote (see)

Maybe try a frameless pack?

I hate framed packs, as i always seem to find that some part of the rigid frame digs in someplace.


funny you should say that i hate frameless packs. i always find some part of its contents dig in somewhere.
06/06/2012 at 14:17
I was thinking that i might had pulled the shoulder straps too much in order to lift the rucksack, that's why i was feeling pain. I have size small, i am 1.73cm and 63kg.
06/06/2012 at 14:22
Have you been adjusting the rucksack so that the weight's being carried on your shoulders rather than on your hips? I'm 5'7", and use a S/M Osprey size quite happily. Ok, it might be to do with your physiology, but upper back and shoulder pain, I'd think about whether you've got the straps adjusted properly so it's being supported by the hipbelt rather than the shoulder straps.
06/06/2012 at 14:24
did you get measured for it in store? Osprey dealers usually have a measuring gizmo.

From your 'symptoms' I reckon you might find you really need a medium....
06/06/2012 at 14:28

ive got one and its like being cuddled from behind by a koala bear.

sound like a sizing/fitting issue, the waist belt is so soft and supportive all the weight should be on your hips with the shoulder straps just there to steady it, especially if all your carrying is 7kgs.

take it to an outdoor shop and get them to check the fit is right for you if your not sure. most shops are pretty helpful.

06/06/2012 at 15:02

Overall height isn't entirely helpful because its torso length that matters Not sure how closely related they are in practice, but certainly not precisely so.  

(and other random things like shoulders, hips etc.).

Edited: 06/06/2012 at 15:02
06/06/2012 at 16:03
I bought it online so i couldn't try it to see if the size is right. Do you have any sites or videos that provide detailed info on how to attach the rucksack to the body? The shoulder straps should be very tight?
06/06/2012 at 16:58

No, because then you're taking the weight on them.

Basic aim is loose shoulder straps until you've got the hip belt tight. Then you'll likely have to tighten the shoulder straps a little to stop it falling off backwards, but it shouldn't need much.

(unless you've got very narrow shoulders of course ).

06/06/2012 at 18:32
I just had my torso length measured and it is about 45cm. Around my hips at the iliac crest is about 77cm. So according to this website http://www.ospreypacks.com/en/web/sizing_and_fitting the size i need is small, the one i have.
10/06/2012 at 10:56

My local Cotswold store told me that Osprey do a lot of staff training to ensure that customers get the right pack to fit their physique.

Might be worth dropping in to your nearest Cotswold. I've always found the staff to be very knowledgeable and helpful

10/06/2012 at 13:00
Thanks, but i don't live in UK, so it not possible.
10/06/2012 at 13:06

Well any local store liable to be able to help a fair bit. Try on with some weight and see how it feels. If not possible then it is sadly going to be somewhat random.

(Like this Exos not working - if its the right size on paper then its something else that doesn't work but predicting that sort of thing in advance is rather hard.).

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