New Harness Required

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19/02/2002 at 16:09
I’ve finally decided that our old Troll/Viking harnesses need replacing, they’re not that comfortable, heavy and a bit of a sod to put on. So I’m after, well basically the opposite. They’ll be used for indoor climbing, hard scrambles, easy rock and winter climbs and Via Ferrata. They don’t need to be festooned with gear loops, but will need a belay loop and as Michele is quite slim, available in a smallish size (not for me though). Any ideas please? Oh and not cost the earth.
20/02/2002 at 09:02
I would suggest a lightweight alpine harness such as the Black Diamond Alpine Bod at around £30. You don't need loads of padding for what you're doing, and that's really all you're paying for on the more expensive harnesses. Plus on an alpine harness you get a wider range of adjustability (including legs), which enables you to wear it with different amounts of clothing, and they're lighter to carry and generally more comfortable to walk in. Another good one is the DMM Super Alpine, but it's rather more expensive.
20/02/2002 at 09:42
The Bod is good, though some people don't get on with the dropping leg loops / tie-in arrangement. A lightweight alpine harness is definitely the way to go though.

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com 

20/02/2002 at 10:19
Thanks, I've looked at the Bod, but not yet tried one on. There does seem to be some concern over the tendency for it to squash certain parts of the male anatomy.
20/02/2002 at 10:54
i ain't had my anatomical parts squashed with my alpine bod - always pulled the side straps in tight enough.

mind you i don't have kids, so maybe not all is right down there.
20/02/2002 at 19:16
i think trying to buy the same harness for a male and female is the wrong way to go. Buy sex specific harness's, it will benefit your other half in the run. try the new petzel range, well padded for wall use and most of the range comes with adjusable leg loops for ease of access for winter use or bloody cold days in february when well wrapped up trying to climb up classis VS's and E2's at Ilkley, not that I'm bitter though!
21/02/2002 at 09:06
Hmm, I reserve judgement on women's harnesses. They're definitely worth a look if you're going for a less adjustable type of harness, but generally the main difference is in the leg loop girth (wider) and the waist/leg connection, or rise (longer), so if these are adjustable, you can make a unisex harness fit most shapes. I've found the odd women's harness I've tried is too big in the leg and so has actually fitted worse than the male version. So have other women I know, so it's worth trying both types.

I wouldn't go for a heavily padded harness for winter or foul weather use. The padding will soak up water, making it heavier, less comfortable and harder to manipulate. And, depending on your body shape, padded legs can cause chafing if you do much walking in them. Padding only helps if you do a lot of hanging, falling or fall-catching, so it's preferable for indoor or sports use, less so for general mountain wear. Ideally, most climbers would benefit from having two harnesses, but if you can only justify one, then a lightweight one is more multipurpose.
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25/02/2002 at 09:29
the DMM ALPINE is a good choice for those who want to go out in the winter months, and climb. So is the CLOG CENTRE for the simplicity of use, and smaller size. Also there is the TROLL GRANITE another lightly padded well fitting one.

These all are very well constucted, and has seen loads of abuse on the outdoor centres circuit. but if i was you i would go for something more padded, if you want to go and do VIA-ferratta, as the forces when you fall is quite high!
So i recomend you buy two harnesses, one for winter and hard scrambles. And one for the indoor climbing , via-ferrata , and easy rock.
I reccomend the DMM ALPINE for the former and the PETZL CALADRIS / CORAX for the latter!
25/02/2002 at 11:05
Thanks all. Sadly there are many items where I've had to compromise and buy just the one. I did get to try on and dangle in one of the old Bod's yesterday in Bettws, on sale at £24, it was comfortable (nuts ok!) and a joy to put on. But of course the largest size they had was medium and there was just not enough belt through the buckle for piece of mind. Couldn't find the DMM Alpine. However I believe Troll are bringing out a new alpine harness.
12/03/2002 at 20:58
I have a Bod too and have just noticed that the leg loops have quick release buckles on them this year!
As for the Corax I'm not sure about the new buckles on them, it look like the would undo if they got caught.
22/04/2002 at 21:10
Just reviving this to recommend the TROLL ALPINIST - a lightweight alpine harness distinguished by its multiple gear loops and quick-release leg loops. Can also be adjusted down to a much smaller waist size than many alpine harnesses.

Also to point out that the BD BOD and BD ALPINE BOD are two different harnesses. The former is effectively a padded version of the latter, and I would NOT recommend it for wet weather/mountain use, as the fleecy padding soaks up water like a J cloth. For dry weather use, the BOD is OK, but in my opinion there are plenty of equivalent or superior products available from other manufacturers. The ALPINE BOD is a terrific lightweight harness suitable for all weathers.

And while we're on confusable harnesses, the DMM ALPINE and DMM SUPER ALPINE are not the same. The SUPER ALPINE is a great alpine harness with water resistant padding, lots of gear loops, a belay loop and easy leg loop adjustment. The ALPINE is a very basic product with a peculiar high tie-in point. Its main virtues are wide adjustability and ease of use, which is why it's popular for teaching. But unless you're a family where big fat dad needs to share his harness with a twelve year old, there are better, more featured harnesses around.
22/04/2002 at 21:52
Curiously the Troll Alpinist is what I use for winter and mountain stuff. Her outdoors has an Alpine Bod, which she likes. I still use an ageing Petzl Jump for rock. Anyway, must try harnesses on. Apart from the obvious stuff about circumference of waist belt and leg loops, the distance between them makes big difference. Think about it - of the drop is too long, the leg loops hang round your knees, if it's too short the waist belt will be pulled down and you'll be talking with a squeaky voice, regardless of gender I think...

Haven't used a normal Bod in the wet, but I can see what you're saying Joan.

Nice pic btw, you change like the wind...

OutdoorsMagic Editor | jon@outdoorsmagic.com 

23/04/2002 at 09:57
Well, I ended up buying the Bod (and boy did I not: look at, try on, hang round in a few harnesses). The advantages (for me) over the Alpine Bod were: belay loop, gear loops, quick release leg buckles (though I see the new version of the Alpine has them now). It's also not much heavier. It's was the most comfortable harness I tried on (and walked in). Oh and the price wasn't bad either. I definitely see what say about the fleecy lining, but I can live with that, I'll just have to buy a umbrella.
23/04/2002 at 19:36
Hmmmmm so can I just confirm that the Alpine Bod has a belay loop, etc?
23/04/2002 at 20:17
I think most harnesses have a belay loop :-)
23/04/2002 at 20:30
and leg loops - usually in pairs... and some are helpfully labelled left and right for safety - truly - although the ones used by centres by kids are often colour coded as kids don't / can't always read....
23/04/2002 at 20:46
No Alex, the Alpine Bod doesn't have a belay loop, as you can see here. What's the 'etc' you're after?
23/04/2002 at 20:50
I feel really stupid now. I was selling ABs only last summer. I thought all harnesses had belay loops!

Joan, do you work in a shop?
23/04/2002 at 20:51
brick a glass as subtle plate through as a
23/04/2002 at 21:07
Shop? Moi? No, it's just that the Alpine Bod is a very popular harness, so you tend to see loads, and I've borrowed one occasionally.
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