we all talk of quantum pertex, paramo, goretex pro, zone technologie, wicking, etc. etc.
but has old school stuff that has been around for thousands of years and has got its place... check out 900 fill diamond grade goose down. how do we chase that one?
or the laboratory?
I like to think I am a balanced Taoist sage of the hills enbracing both schools of thought..
but without the marketing, whats your views? I love my montane speedlite, VR trousers for winter, have a couple of paramo's, HH, merino, etc. etc.
but also love my charity shop cashmere jumper, extremely warm, soft, light. exothermic qualities.
oh, also my lambswool jumper from marks and sparks, thin, warm, breathable, light layers...isn't that the holy grail of what we are looking for?....oh and that was £2.99 and had it 30 years...and the rest of my life....... when ever THAT may be ?
charity shop cotton shirt with coller up to ,protect neck in extreme heat (alps in summer, being cooler than sythetics as sweat doesn't wick as an advantage here)
ps had hyperthermia 3 times wearing cotton in britain 37 yrs ago...lesson learned !!!
woolen breeches, long socks (what happened to them, took on roll of leg warmers in previous thread.)
the "trekkers from New Zealand" comment reminded me:
In the early 1990's I got a sprayway hydrodry jacket (as a replacement for one under gurarantee) and found that the fabric had the magic property of drying on the outside, and being very wet inside. I don't *think* it was condensation.
Anyway, I was hosteling in the lakes with friends, and realised that I had a Swandri bushshirt:
and decided that it couldn't be any worse. I wore it all day in the rain in October. It took about 8-hours to wet through. It is very breathable (not windproof at all). But it did weigh quite a lot at the end of the day.
I still use it near campfires or bonfires, and it does keep me dry, and being wool is pretty safe, unlike other materials. In fact this experience probably convinced me that I wanted breathability above all else, and I bought a paramo jacket - that I have just replaced after 18-years.
It actually looks odder than it seems from the picture - especially if you realise that in NZ I saw lots of people wearing them with rugby shorts...
At least I assume they were wearing shorts They come down to knee height at the front and back and about mid thigh on the sides.
I have noticed Ray Mears wearing one on TV
But maybe he isn't really a fashion guru to follow.
My regular trips are to Finland and arctic Lapland. Last year our warmest day was -25'C, the coldest was -45'C, without windchill. Eeeek!
I've long given up with 'technical' gear for most of these trips. Most synthetics go stiff and brittle and I have not found a membrane fabric yet that works well much below -15'C. Not only that but I have learnt that while inner layers need to be relatively snug and fitted, outer layers need to be big and baggy so as to pump moisture out more effectively. 'Technical' does not often go 'big and baggy'!
Add to that material choice - my outer layers are Ventile (tops and bottoms) and base layers are merino. Inbetween I do use synthetics but also plenty of wool and goose-down too.
And on my feet - mukluks made from leather, wool-felt and canvas. And not much else.
Mother nature often knows best me thinks...
Not terribly old school I know, but this is amusing me
Just got myself another Norrona fleece (I know..... but they fit!) and the swing tag claims it to have the best warmth/weight ratio of any fleece they've tested. Looking at it/folding it for comparisons/wearing it I think I can believe that.
(its certainly a fair bit thicker folded than my ('08) R2 style thing of very similar weight.).
Why is that funny or relevant to this thread? Well it happens to look very like pile
Kind of puts the idea of continual improvements into perspective Not half as lovely looking as that fur style thermal pro stuff of course.
And it does have a reasonable degree of stretch which I'm not sure old style pile did. I wasn't around to find out!
For polar wear, I think very probably the case. Membrane stuff is designed for lots of liquid water. "Technical" cuts tend to be aimed at climbing athletes, not at UK walkers or polar trekkers.
Often it's the case that combinations work very well. So that Pampas jacket someone mentioned is a polyester cotton mix. You can get them from Rohan again now, only now with a silicone encapsulation treatment for more water resistance and quicker drying. Those 900 fill power down bags have nylon shells. My favourite socks are wool synthetic mix, the wool for warmth and comfort and the the synthetic for structure. And so on.
LEKI are pole specialists - making poles is what they do
No matter your idea of fun, the new CNX footwear range is made for play
Become a fan of OutdoorsMagic
Follow us on twitter
Sign up to our free newsletter
Meet partners in our forum
Other Immediate Media Sites
Our eCommerce Platform
© Immediate Media Company Ltd 2012. This website is owned and published by Immediate Media Company Limited. www.immediatemedia.co.uk