Paramo Tiempo fleece

Fleece - it's the most unfleecy thing I've ever seen - it's flat like velvet.
Paramo realy neeed to employ someone with a brain to write the product reviews - all this temperature adjustment rubbish which involves pulling up the sleeves or unzipping a zip - like we didn't know that.
"Protection to the kidney area when bending or stretching from scooped tail."...I think Paramo reckon the kidneys are in your arse area as that's where the extra material is.

They are their own worst enenies - the 'fleece' or whatever is it is actually a delight to wear, soft, warm, well designed, great hood, plenty of pockets, nice cuffs, good pullcords, really excellent arm cut, nice chunky zip, good poppers, excellent storm flap.
But it's not a fleece as I understand and it doesn't have magical temperature adjustments - horrendously expensive.
Might be my favourite purchase this year though....it just feels so nice.
I never thought I'd join the Paramo 'dark side'...ignore the advertising garbage..the gear is good..just a tad expensive and confusing.

Look on the bright side, at least they resisted the temptation to call it a soft shell!

I've been wondering about this thing myself. How waterproof is it? The blurb says the other fleecy thing the Taiga is waterproof when you put a windproof over it. But this one is windproof anyway. But its not touted as a waterproof. But then how does putting another windproof over it make it full waterproof? My mind is a confusion!

I suppose this might be useful for those people who are standing about it the cold a lot - bird watchers, country farm workers. Probably not really aimed at use walkers.

it's water resistant, not a waterproof. it is comfy though.
when did you get it chris because they had a problem with the pockets wearing out and recalled them (well at least my retailer did). carry the marbles somewhere else.

In defence of the ones who write the copy, we put as much detail about features in as possible, with the benefit that gives to the wearer - for a number of reasons.
Firstly, lots of people can't easily reach a Páramo retailer and want to know as much as possible about the garment in order to judge whether it is right for them before taking a journey or ordering on-line etc
Secondly, I know the outdoorsmagic visitors are generally very knowledgeable about kit and how to use it but you would be surprised how many outdoor enthusiasts, particularly newcomers, appreciate some basic info - many haven't yet taken on board the basics of ventilation, aren't sure about how to care for their waterproof garments, wear cotton base layers, ask us for jackets that will stop them sweating. We try to give them enough detail to see the benefits to them without being patronising.
The Taiga has the Analogy Pump Liner which will work very hard to keep you dry, but the fleece outer, although lovely and soft and cosy cannot deflect the rain or keep out the wind in the same way as the Analogy windproof outer on our Analogy Waterproof jackets. Hence in really, really downpour situations it may let some water in, worn with one of our windproofs over the top it is pretty much bombproof (figuratively speaking).
In terms of where the kidneys are - the lumbar region of your back is the most vulnerable, and it's amazing how easy it is to expose it with a jacket that stops at the waist if you do a fair bit of stretching. It's one of our standard tests with a jacket before we make this claim in our product blurb.

Sorry, I'll go back into my copy-writing corner now!!!!

Andy - I birdwatch so the (tends to be warm)Paramo gear is perfect for me as I'm often stationary for hours or riding pillion on a bike.

Parky - only just bought it from GoOutdoors but I'll keep an eye on the pockets, I'm off now to test it's rain resisting properties.

Catherine - pleased to meet you - I was intoduced to your gear by the half price offer that GoOutdoors had on the Cascada coat...till then I'd resisted increasing my 'coat for every day of the week' collection.
Glad I did - as I mentioned I birdwatch on the Cornish cliffs and your gear is ideal, I went on to purchase the Fuera windproof smock & trousers, Cambia boxers & zip top then finally the Tiempo fleece.
Apologies for the sarkiness - just the way I am :)

Hope I am not confusing the issue and I don't want to repeat what has been said but here is some more info from a previous thread on the Tiempo.

IMO it must be very water resistant to meet the test standard.

PG - I see what you mean, in that old thread Catherine says the Tiempo was tested for 4 hours with no ingress of water but in this tread advises that "in really really downpour situations a Fuera on top makes it bombproof"

The sales blurb actually does say that
"For maximum weather protection combine with the Fuera Windproof Smock or Jacket".

Looking at the jacket you would assume warmth and wind resistance primarilarly as the outer shell does not look or feel water resistant at all - wore it to work today and it lashed down both ways - stayed completely dry.

I've been using a Berghaus Choktoi but now the windy season is here I wanted something with a hood that (like the Choktoi)is not bulky - the Tiempo suits me perfectly - good length, great arm cut, excellent adjusters, wired hood, just feels soooo nice.
Would be nice if the front hood adjusters were tethered as they could take an eye out just like everyone elses, they are better than the Cascada ones which are like bootlaces and don't grip very well at all.
The waist adjuster is also much better as it appears in the side pockets and cannot get caught in the main zip.
Great jacket - well pleased.