The theory is that the fibre pile should be in constant contact with your skin to lift any sweat off as soon as it appears. The advice usually given is 'snug, but not too tight'.
Buffalo tops have an internal 'belt' so it can be adjusted to suit.
Well if I was buying Buffalo I could probably do that but I'd thought about Snugpack as they're cheaper and I'm not sure whether I'd like it or not.
Sounds like a good option, but maybe start a thread on canoeing clothing? There are a few paddlers on here.
R_Mac wrote (see)
Thinking about getting one but how close fitting should they be?
Bump on the others saying the closer the fit the better. I own a Buffalo Mountain Shirt. Buffalo recommends exact chest size as the best indicator as to the size to be worn. It worked perfectly for me. Putting it on for the first time I thought it may be a little constrictive. But as it turned out I just wasn't use to a closer fitting jacket.
I too own a Montane Extreme Jacket---ditto on fit. Everyone has their preferences. I like both the Montane and the Buffalo but prefer the Buffalo most of the time. The Montane is a little bulkier but I believe it to be warmer than the Buffalo overall. The Buffalo has more "venting" options and as already mentioned, the internal waist cinch/belt works really well; so I'd have to say for me the mountain shirt is more versatile.
Either way, Pile/Pertex for cold conditions is my favorite. LOL.
> The Buffalo has more "venting" options and as already mentioned
Really? The Extreme has the full-length side zips, as well as the slanting 'pouch vents'.
I think Montane went a bit mad with the layers of fabric in the pouch, and the number of velcro strips; it all gets a bit bunched up, and looks a bit 'pregnant'...
captain paranoia wrote (see)
> The Buffalo has more "venting" options and as already mentionedReally? The Extreme has the full-length side zips, as well as the slanting 'pouch vents'.I think Montane went a bit mad with the layers of fabric in the pouch, and the number of velcro strips; it all gets a bit bunched up, and looks a bit 'pregnant'...
Sorry about that; I was referring to the Montane Extreme Jacket vs. the Smock. I don't own the Montane Smock. The jacket has a full-zip and two pockets/vents vs. two full length side zips for venting on the smock(s). The vents on the jacket do work well though. I just personally think the jacket isn't as versatile as the Buffalo Mountain Shirt/Smock. I bought both for different reasons i.e. slightly different conditions and situations. Perhaps the Montane Smock would be the same as the Buffalo as far as versatility goes---personal choice I suppose.
I bought my (extremely warm Rab Berber Tech Smock) pile pertex in the late 90's and at the time didn't realise that it should be worn against the skin. Consequently mine's more of a belay jacket over-layer size. And it works well as such but that particular model would perhaps have been too warm as an all-day layer in any case!
So although I agree (now!) that close fitting is a good idea, I have managed perfectly well with one that's a bit larger than necessary! Too small clearly won't work
My turn to apologise, Dan; I'd missed the word 'jacket', so I was thinking about my Extreme Smock.
Listen to us. If anyone not familiar with OM would read this thread they would probably think something like, "What the hell are they talking about". We, on the other hand pay such close attention to detail it can almost be comical at times. But as we all pretty much know, detail in inclement conditions can mean a lot. Enjoy<img /><img /><img /><img /><img /><img /><img /><img /><img /><img /><img /><img />!!
Hi all, thanks for the replies, I need some advice/opinions now on what to get.
Snugpack I've ruled out as the small isn't small enough (they're big fitting) so the alternatives that I know of are as follows and my primary use would be as (open) canoe wear but I'd also expect to wear it for other stuff.
Buffalo Mountain Shirt
Buffalo Special 6
Montane Extreme Smock
Extreme Pathfinder K2 (Ultrafleece Lined)
Extreme Pathfinder Narvik (Polartec 200 type Fleece, I think)
Extreme APS Smock (K2 fleece forearms/Pile elsewhere)
Hope the links work ok, the Extreme catalogue is Here
I like the look of the Extreme stuff but I'm slightly wary after a bad experience with another small clothing manufacturer.
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