PHD Minimus Sleeping Bag

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03/04/2012 at 16:28

Just wanted to share my initial impressions on the PHD I just purchased on the forum as I did notice loads of people asking about ultralight bags whilst I was researching online...

Reg Size

No Zip

MX outer and inner

900 Down

On the scale weight inc stuffsack...380 grams!!! Oh my god this thing is incredible...

No need to even contemplate bags with top half down only, or any of the other compromises out there.

I think the ME xero MM is supposed to be 400 gms...I weighed my friends in stuffsack...it weighed approx 419gms...and it only has down in the top of the bag!

Nice snug fit with room to spare, very easy to get in and out, hood simple and excellent, extremely comfortable, lofts immediately...I could go on and on.

Oh, and MX fabric does seem to be water resistant as my experiments this afternoon resulted in the water beading off.

So for anyone considering one of these...buy it...its true...you do get what you pay for.

Just wanted to share this 

03/04/2012 at 17:51

so what you intend to use it for, very ultralite backpacking summer type trips?

03/04/2012 at 18:30
I have one of these bags and I use it from March to October in Southern England with an Alpkit Hunka bivvy bag. I have a pertex liner inside to keep the bag clean as well. My coldest night was close to freezing on 18/03/12 while walking the Cotswold Way: I woke to frost all around and ice in my water bottle.
03/04/2012 at 18:33
Hey wanderingdave, thanks. I've been toying with idea of getting one of those and now I know.
03/04/2012 at 18:44
Does it keep you warm?
03/04/2012 at 18:45
Mrs. Nesbit wrote (see)
Does it keep you warm?
It's shiny new kit, so does it really matter. ?

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03/04/2012 at 19:06

Ok so its snowing/hail/sleet here today, so I pitched the tent in the garden and got into it starkers and read a book for a while...I boiled!!!

Seriously, when you first take it out of its stuffsack, its scary...theres nothing to it...but get in and you can feel the heat build up immediately.

And have to say...the no zip design is actually great...to test I geared up with my base layer, Aspira sallopettes, berghaus primaloft jacket, montane shell etc...and I was still able to slide in no bother...and its more comfy without all the shoulder and zip baffles etc.

Im going to sleep out in garden tonight to test it...Im going to start off with just boxers and see what happens...thermometer is reading 2 degrees and thats out of the wind...and its getting bloody cold as the temp drops here, so I'll update you tomorrow on how I get on.

I intend to use this bag for basically all my camping for as much as the year as possible...in colder weather I am going to experiment with a clothing system as I do think this is the way to go for versatility...I dont want to own a different sleeping bag for every month of the year...I want simplicity and lighter kit to get me through March - Sep/Oct in my locality.

 Its bloody brilliant...buy one!

03/04/2012 at 19:58
I used this bag in Sept camping just below Scafell Pike with a silk liner and just a pair of boxer shorts.I know that it can get quite cold at night in the Mountains in Sept and on the walk in,I was convinced that I had made a big mistake and should have taken along a heavier and warmer bag.However,I had a really good nights sleep and never felt cold.The weight of the bag is just incredible.
Great idea to just use the bag and wear extra clothing in very low temperatures.The PHD Ultra down pullover at just over 200g would make an ideal addition to the sleeping bag.
03/04/2012 at 20:18

I dont have the Minimus but I did have a Vango Venom 225 which with its 550fp great in summer is I think comparable to the insulation of the PHD Minimus 900fp, and the issue is the bordeline March/April type months (and October) the temperature swings can be between the level of insulation being enough and not enough so I moved to the PHD Minim 300, it is 300g heavier than the Minimus but I thought that an acceptable weight penalty to be safer in the spring/autumn seasons. It does though mean a bit overkill for warmer but I just have the bag further down the body and the liner only upper body.

 Using clothing to a boost a summer bag has limited benefit. I tried in a cold March once to wear lots of clothing and throw stuff over the bag and it didn't work, still cold. 

 So basically my experience camping was to migrate away from the Minimus type concept

 The PHD Combi bag, sale ends shortly, is a booster.

03/04/2012 at 21:00
In my experience,if it's cold it's bloody cold and no matter what you do,it's hard to keep warm.
I camped at Capel Curig one January and the water on the campsite had frozen up.
I slept on an Exped Downmat 9 mat in a Marmot Helium sleeping bag covered over by blankets.I wore clothing together with a PHD Minimus jacket and still nearly froze to death.
I vowed next time to get a really warm winter sleeping bag-not a very pleasant experience.


03/04/2012 at 22:16
380g does seem scary light, but about right compared to mine. I ordered the same spec Minimus but with the short zip option and it weighs 449g with the stuff sac, 432g for just the bag. It arrived from PHD the day before Snowdon Ranger's ad appeared, otherwise I think I would have taken a chance on doing without the zip to save £100.
I've worn an insulated jacket in a summer bag on an unexpectedly cold night and it worked OK for me, except my feet were cold. I'm thinking about getting some PHD down socks to cover that.
03/04/2012 at 22:41

do want to pull off thread but I bought the combi bag to get into winter, with a zip, to go over my non-winter no-zip bag. Combi on sale £199+zip+postage.300g down for 3 seasons, adds 450g to winter.

Edited: 03/04/2012 at 22:42
04/04/2012 at 07:26
Lets not forget that at the end of the day,the PHD Minimus is not really designed for use in extreme temperatures.When I originally purchased it,I only meant to use it in the Summer months.
04/04/2012 at 08:40

I'm reading all the comments above and feeling a bit puzzled.... aren't you all describing the PHD Minim Ultra bag? Which is a different bag from the PHD Minimus.

04/04/2012 at 09:18
Matt C wrote (see)

I'm reading all the comments above and feeling a bit puzzled.... aren't you all describing the PHD Minim Ultra bag? Which is a different bag from the PHD Minimus.

I was thinking the same thing. The "900 down" isn't standard for a Minimus that I'm aware of.

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04/04/2012 at 09:36
Sounds like a Minim Ultra yes - I've got one and concur with the OP's findings - a great piece of kit, particularly if extended into shoulder season use with additional pieces of down clothing etc.
04/04/2012 at 09:49
900fp down not standard - and neither is I think MX? - but they are definetly offerred as a standard option on minimi now (and indicated as such on the website) so very possible.
04/04/2012 at 10:41

Nope its the minimus...I should have stated...upgraded to 900 down and upgraded to Mx inner and outer to get the weight down...if you check PHD website you will see these as available options.

Anyway...slept out last night...pretty exposed (We live up on a hill). Thermometer read 1.5C at 2am and 3C at 9am...I slept with no liner wearing only a pair of Paramo boxers and using a simple Z LITE mat...

Guess what...I was toasty all night. To be fair I was sleeping in a ME Dragonfly 2 which is exceptional at keeping the breeziness out...but all the same...I was genuinely warm all night.

I should also mention that I am not a particularly warm sleeper...sometimes I seem to sleep warm enough but I do feel the cold when its there...Im not the hardy sort.

04/04/2012 at 13:10
Fair enough Dave, sorry. I'd had a check on the website but not gone into every available option. I've had my Minimus about 10 years now (495g) and my Minim Ultra around 3 years iirc (since they launched) so I've had no real reason to follow all the changes to options over time. I agree that they're a great range of bags though (if I didn't think so it'd be a bit daft on me to own six! )
06/04/2012 at 07:03
PHD clearly know what they're doing when it comes to down. I'm sorted for my 3 season bag but I'll certainly look at PHD for my winter bag
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