Prism vs Prism 2

I used the original Montane Prism for a while but that got 'stolen' from me by my girlfriend. I've got a Haglofs Barrier Hood but I'm looking for something a bit more packable and more suited for on the move.

If anyone has used or owned both the old and the new Prism jacket, could they comment on any differences please? What improved? What got worse, etc.?

Thanks!

Following on from DW's comments above, I'm usually a size large but the size XL Prism 2 fits me well and the length and arm length are just right too. I'm sure I would have found the size L to be too short. For me there is absolutely no point in having an insulating layer that exposes your waist and nethers to the elements, where you'll lose loads of heat. Despite my, ahem, significant beer belly, I can easily layer the Prism 2 underneath the Fitzroy, which is only a size large, for crazy insulation when I get trapped by my arm in the bottom of a crevasse.

FWIW I really like the Prism 2 - I was expecting the 40g/m2 not to be particularly  toasty but in fact I'm finding the jacket surprisingly warm. It has a double layer of 40g/m2 in the front covering the long pockets for about 2/3 of the length of the front of the jacket, which probably makes the difference. Surprisingly, I don't think it breathes as well as my ME Fitzroy which is 100g/m2 Primaloft One in the body, with arms tending to get a bit sweaty fairly quickly for some reason.  It is totally windproof.

None of which gives you any info whatsoever about the Prism v Prism 2. But hey, it's good to ramble.

Dave,

I have a Prism 2.  I've worn it a couple of times but really prefer my PHD Sigma (I have always got on better with a smock rather than jacket for my cold weather trips).

I'm thinking of selling the Prism 2.  It is grey outer, burnt orange lining, size medium.  Asking £50 includinf postage.  If you decide on a Prism 2 and fancy this one then message me.

James

Dave,

Just checked the jacket and it is actually labeled 'Large' not medium as I thought.  Still great condition, about as close to "as new" as you could get.

Sorry to everyone else who has expredded an interest for any confusion.

James

I dug out my Prism and its had a hard life, it will have to stitch the pockets up again. Shame the Prism 2 is shorter. There wasn't anything wrong with the Prism.

If someone was to find a new similar solution to Prism and not want the shorter Prism2 - what exists?

With such little insulation? Nothing springs to mind, as everyone seemingly into 40g/m2 at the minimum. Straight weight wise/hooded the xenon is fairly similar, but a lot warmer of course so different. Or a few 40g/m2 smocks, but no hoods.

Closest might even be a simple lined windshirt like the Krypton, although I suppose probably not as warm. But 25g/m2 of primaloft can't have been that warm anyway?

Pity, I found it perfect when living in Lancashire just to step out and walk into town, just enough insulation in a windproof with hood, and long.

I guessed as much, no straight replacement.

It is amusing customer-focus of all these outdoor vendors seems to involve changing things that work.

 Needle+thread and another year of wait for me, I have an old Litespeed I can butcher for some Pertex. It'll end up looking quite odd if I have to wait too many winters.