Rab Bergen jacket problems

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10/05/2012 at 15:07

Hi folks,

I was wondering if I could have a bit of help with a new bit of kit I got a few weeks back.

As the thread title says its a Rab Bergen jacket and the problem seems to be its letting in the rain.

I have only wore the jacket twice, first time was to try the fit and was indoors and then again today in the rain giving it its first proper test which it seem's to have failed miserably.

I took my dog for a walk which took about 30 mins and although the weather is drizzly its hardly the usual heavy downpour we are used to here in the ennerdale valley, lakes district.

I am a "hot" walker and wanted a new jacket for all year round use that was light, breathable had a good technical cut (hood, collar, length) that was hard wearing enough to handle general use with a backpack and the Rab seemed to fit my requirements.

The jacket did seem to bead the rain along the arms and lower back of the jacket for a little while, but it started wetting out badly along the front and most seams, after 20 mins i started to feel very damp.

please see the pictures below.

 first pic is of the neck area the seams and area where the collar tag got very wet, my neck felt very wet.

http://s4.outdoorsmagic.com/members/images/61462/gallery/rab_back_2.jpg?width=350&height=264&mode=max




Arm shows random beading and random wetting out.

http://s4.outdoorsmagic.com/members/images/61462/gallery/rab_arm1.jpg?width=350&height=263&mode=max




front right chest pocket, again seams very wet, jacket front also.

http://s4.outdoorsmagic.com/members/images/61462/gallery/rab_chest1.jpg?width=350&height=263&mode=max




very wet front, no beading at all but let in a fair bit of water, inside fabric very wet.

http://s4.outdoorsmagic.com/members/images/61462/gallery/rab_front1.jpg?width=350&height=263&mode=max




http://s4.outdoorsmagic.com/members/images/61462/gallery/rab_arm1_0.jpg?width=350&height=263&mode=max




more seams wetting out.

http://s4.outdoorsmagic.com/members/images/61462/gallery/back_1.jpg?width=350&height=263&mode=max





 Im sure this is not normal, especially for a brand new jacket.

Does anyone have any experience with this Event fabric? its sounds great on the tin, but seems to fail badly in practice.

considering this jacket is made for hill walkers and is supposedly hard wearing I feel a bit dissapointed that it has fallen at the first hurdle in only moderatly bad weather, the whole jacket feels very soggy with all the rain it has absorbed and the front has random wet patches inside.

It was bought a month ago from www.roughgear.co.uk which has great service btw.

In contrast my "cheap" Berghaus deluge over trousers, kept me dry and breathed well and they only cost me £20 in an amazon sale.

Edited: 10/05/2012 at 15:35
10/05/2012 at 15:15

Never had problems with Event fabric wetting out like that except when my Montane Superfly got very old.

You could either do a reproofing and see what happens, or contact roughgear aboutsending it back.

10/05/2012 at 15:24

Thanks for the reply Kate, Im not sure I want to try washing it seeing as its basically brand new, to me that says there is a problem with it from the outset.

I know the instructions say it needs regular washing but on its first go?

On closer inspection an hour or so later the rain has managed to completely soak through the material so the inside of the entire jacket is now wet.

not good

I think I will contact Rough gear and see what they can do.

Thanks.

Edit* contacted rough gear, they will contact Rab to see who I return the Jacket to?? they said they will email me shortly with a response.

Edited: 10/05/2012 at 16:11
10/05/2012 at 16:32
Yup, gerrit returned, if there's a problem already what's it gonna be like long term.

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10/05/2012 at 17:41
Oh dear. Hopefully this is a one off. I've had my own Rab Bergen for a little while now and generally I've been pleased with it, however it's not had to put up with much rain so far. A little light rain which has beaded up and vanished next time I've looked. Hope it all works out for you.  
10/05/2012 at 17:43
Exactly Twiglegs, I did a fair bit of research into getting a nice quality light weight all year round jacket and for it to fail this badly on its maiden voyage (2 mile dog walk in light drizzle) is really disheartening tbh.

Thing is I really love the weight and cut of the jacket its just what I wanted.

Still no reply from rough gear yet but I have also sent Rab themselves an email and a link to this thread, I'll let you know how I get on.

Thanks MC hopefully it will be sorted, unfortunatly I need a jacket that can cope with lakeland weather which means it will see a lot of rain
Edited: 10/05/2012 at 17:47
10/05/2012 at 17:47
However thinking back I did have problems with an early Montane Superfly. First the main zip broke (which Montane replaced) and then in fairly heavy rain whilst visiting Aysgarth falls it failed on me and I got quite wet. I had had it quite a while so returning it wasn't really an option but I'd only worn it maybe a dozen times so I was quite pissed off. 
10/05/2012 at 18:00
I was actually considering a montane superfly, but the blurb on the Rab site swung me in favour of the bergen.
I was also looking at a paramo velez but a lot of reviews say its a bit too hot for summer use, I would rathar have the lighter material and layer up in colder weather tbh.

But then if it leaks this badly id be better of wearing a tissue lol.
Fingers crossed it is just a one off bad batch.

EDIT* Just had an email from Rab to say RoughGear have been in touch and I am to send the jacket back to Rab for testing.
I'll send it off tommorow and update the thread once I hear back from them.

Thanks for all the replies.
Edited: 10/05/2012 at 18:11
10/05/2012 at 18:11
The quality of Rab gear has fallen off since they moved production to China and several people have commented on it. Certainly a pair of trousers I bought had a poorly stitched thigh pocket attached to the trouser leg.
10/05/2012 at 18:31
I am honestly surprised at how wet its gotten after being hung up to dry it seems like the rain has beaded and then slowly sunk into the fabric and as I said the entire inside of the front and the arms of the jacket is now wet.
Im not sure how the Event fabric works but i know its not meant to let water in even if the outer does get wetted out.

Kind of glad it happened while I was out with the dog and not half way up yonder. Still kinda gutted like lol.
Its back to my old helly hansen for now then I guess as heavy as it is tho that was originally made for boating but it still keeps me dry even tho its nearly 10 years old it weight about a kilo and a half tho hehe.
11/05/2012 at 14:12
My Rab Bergen (2009? model) too a couple of years of regular abuse and not much care before it began wetting through on the arms, so I'd say there's definitely something not right with yours.
11/05/2012 at 15:26
Thanks for the info Tom,
The Bergen is currently winging its way back to Rab so well wait and see what they find.

I think the one I have is the 2011 model??
28/05/2012 at 22:58
Ok so a quick update,

I recived an email last week from Rab saying that they would be sending out a replacement jacket which was delivered today.

Havent had a chance to even take it out of its packing yet but I might give it a test in the shower tommorow

The Rab rep didnt explain what was wrong with the other jacket but it must have been unfixable for them to just send a replacement.

Anyways just thought I would let you know how I got on.
29/05/2012 at 10:46
Thanks for the update. Hope this jacket works out for you.
09/09/2012 at 21:56

Hi Crag Scrambler, how you getting on wiv ya Rab now?

Graham

09/09/2012 at 22:41

Just 'cos this thread has popped up again...

... I have an old(ish) Rab Latok (second hand from a friend) that has performed really well. I bought (from flea-bay) a Lowe Alpine eVent and that has also done what's been asked (expected). However...

... January sales. Thought I'd treat myself to a Rab Latok Trek — pretty much half-price, and the piggy-bank is never full. First walk this last Easter (staying low along Mawddach Estuary in steady rain) wetted-out big time, even my fleece below shell was wet, wet, wet.

Back home, usual wash (for eVent) and reproof, then cool iron (always worked before for eVent). The next walk was Moel Siabod in rainy-down-a-load mode (June), with the same disappointment of jacket performance. Emails sent. No useful response.

If anyone from Rab or eVent looks at these posts, then please do something to get your market share back, 'cos I (and others, it would seem) are a bit miffed.

I trust my OMM Kamleika far more at the moment.

My appologies to the OP, I've not been of any help — just a rant!

10/09/2012 at 10:35

@ pete_rbg

Both of my brothers bought the Rab Latok Trek and have used them in awful weather but haven't experienced the problems you describe. It sounds like a manufacturing error, because from their use of them, they have beaded well in rain and they have never got wet.

I believe the jacket was a Cotswold exclusive, so (if you haven't done so already) I'd try contacting them, because their customer service is normally very good and manufacturers are more likely to respond to a big company.

 

10/09/2012 at 17:54

Thanks Explorer,

I did email Cotswold and heard sweet nothing in reply. May be I should try telephoning them.

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