Rucksack modifications

RobM

20/11/2006 at 23:06

Using my tick list of pack features:

Wand pockets
Side compression straps
Lid pocket
Hydration compatible
Not too heavy
It fits!

I struggle to find the 'perfect' pack so wonder if anyone can help with the following:

Any advice on how to add compression straps to an Alpkit Drysack, and stay waterproof - stick 'something' on and seal with silicon sealant?

Any source of add-on rucksack hip belt/waist belt pockets? I noticed a Salomon waist pack with 'loose' waist pockets which in theory could be used on any waist belt.
I have seen the small Lifeventure types, but these seem to be tall and thing - 'portrait' whereas I am after something a bit 'landscape'!

Any help appreciated - Rob

captain paranoia

21/11/2006 at 19:41

Compression straps: why not a simple strap around the entire sack? Double over the end of the strap and sew down so it can't escape the buckle, and it's held captive between on the sack by the shoulder straps. You can adjust the position to suit the load.

Alternatively, if you must fasten straps to the sack, sew them on, and then use seam grip or iron-on seam seal tape to make waterproof. Depends on the coating used on the fabric.

Additional pockets: get some proofed lightweight Cordura from Point North of Pennine Outdoor and make your own

RobM

21/11/2006 at 19:48

Thanks captain - those were my conclusions.

My only concern about the compression strap around the complete sack was if it would slide, or rub between the sack and my back.

Time to experiment and get the sewing machine out (for the homemade extra waist pockets)

captain paranoia

21/11/2006 at 19:55

It might, but there are usually points on a rucksack that don't touch your back. Maybe not so many with a soft back system. Make sure the webbing is fairly soft, then.

I've done this in a makeshift fashion before, using long straps with fixed, spring-loaded buckles, and it worked okay and didn't notice any discomfort of rubbing; after all, webbing is pretty thin.

Paddy Dillon

21/11/2006 at 20:00

I'm a bit of a devil for modifying stuff myself, except that I'm more likely to lop things off rather than stick them on.

21/11/2006 at 20:15

Buy an OMM/Kimmlite pack..it has all of those...the 32L is the only pack you will need....

But as the Padster say's...you might have to chop a few bits off....

RobM

21/11/2006 at 22:31

Thanks for the advice all.

I will try the webbing straps (maybe located with a bit of gaffer tape :)

I looked at the OMM packs, but the bright orange panels put me off!

Danny McShane

22/11/2006 at 18:29

Maybe a separate bumbag (wearing it facing forward) would answer a couple of pocket issues)?

Re compression straps -since the sac isn't so big (25 or 30 ltr) and it isn't particularly strong, abrasion resistant or punture proof, maybe compression straps aren't a great idea?

Alternatively -how about a vertical strap running over the sac from between the shoulderstraps? The tail-tag on the back support pocket could provide some location at the lower end.

I'm not going to bother with compression straps. :o)

Modding a Gourdon might just be a case of finding the right glue :o)

The iron-on repair patches could also be a clue to creating a reinforced exit point for a drink tube. Near to, but not quite at the top so you still get some protection from folding over the top?

Wands have me stumped for now though.

Edited: 22/11/2006 at 18:30

Jaegermonster

22/11/2006 at 18:53

Anybody familiar with cargo nets made from bungee cord. Great for carrying odd shaped loads on motorcycles and have masses of stretch.
How about a micro cargo net for your sack?
You'd need at least 6 anchor points and it would ideally stretch from a light, all-over compression net, to say, a 20L stretchy pocket.

RobM

22/11/2006 at 19:37

Danny - looks like you have thought about this too :)
I wanted the compression straps to move smaller loads in and up, rather than 'flopping' to the bottom of the sack.

I think captain paranoia's suggestion of webbing straps may be the best/easiest solution - I think I may be able to cut some slots in the back section (the bit outside the back pad, which incidentally I have replaced with cut up foam mat - was too heavy and 'hard', which won't effect waterproofness)
OR
Sew a few tags/loops onto the edge of the back, to attach either cord for compression or (based on Jaegermonsters suggestion) bungy/shock cord/netting for an external pocket.

In fact - if I do both I have pocket(s), and side straps - ideal for poles maybe?

I have tried the bumbag in the past, but having 2 waist straps seems to be ott - maybe I could modify the bumbag/sack to share the same belt - hmm there's another idea!

Or maybe I will stick with it all as it is and just 'talk' about it ;)

DandyMountainMan

22/11/2006 at 21:28

Granite gear do hip belt pockets.

You might also like to look at smallish camera bags that can clip onto a belt. I use one of these on the hip belt and stick a gps in it.

RobM

23/11/2006 at 08:23

Thanks DandyMountainMan - not thought of using camera pouches.

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