Sleeping bag liners

Moggy

05/04/2007 at 18:43

Has anyone got any recomendations for a sleeping bag liner...

ive seen a couple of rab ones and one by a company called jagbag.

it needs to be mummy shaped and light weight...oh and not cost too much lol

cheers
Andy

Matt C

05/04/2007 at 18:51

It pretty much has to be a jagbag silk one then! :)

Rab's used to be good but last time I looked they'd got bigger and heavier (ok, not massively but enough).

There are excellent British-made silk liners by a bunch called Lemon Tree, which were certainly available from Rock and Run last year - the smallest, lightest I've ever found (70g for a silk mummy liner) - but at £35 or £40 they're twice the price of the jagbag ones!

Moggy

05/04/2007 at 18:58

Thanks matt ill have a look

witht he lemon tree ones,is it purely the fact that they are light that makes them expensive?

how hardwearing are they compared to the heavier/cheaper ones?

ptc*

05/04/2007 at 19:03

My current Sea to Summit mummy liner has been used for about a year. It looks a bit worn, but no holes and no real wash shrinkage.

Matt C

05/04/2007 at 19:04

I'm not sure why the Lemon Tree ones are more expensive - I'd guess it could be any of the cost of the very light silk, the cost of British manufacture, or S&R's pricing policy!

But they are very good and I've not noticed any problem with durability, it's lasting better than my previous Rab one. I've probably used it 30 to 40 nights so far and it's as good as new.

Edited: 05/04/2007 at 19:04

Cantab

06/04/2007 at 20:34

i've got one of those lemon tree ones too. definitely not the best price but not the worst either...i dont use mine so often so i cant really comment except that i would prefer it if it had a draw cord so it stayed in place better overnight.
cocoon silk mummy ones are meant to be good too if you see them

andrew ;)

ALoveSupreme

06/04/2007 at 22:37

I'm on my second RAB one - the first one disintegrated quickly, despite being carefully hand washed and dried. I think storing it in its stuffsac was not a good idea. The second one is holding up, but the seams aren't looking that good. So I couldn't recommend them. I'd look for something just a little stronger, even if it is a wee bit heavier. Jagbags look good.

RedYeti

12/04/2007 at 13:57

For what it's worth I've used a "Cocoon" silk liner for years and it's still fine. Not sure where to get them but I'd replace it with a Jagbag now anyway since they're lighter and cheaper. You can get them in the UK (someone on ebay) but getting them direct is cheaper.

I've never hand washed it, in fact I'm not sure I've ever hand washed anything in my life (except when away travelling!).

It just gets slung in the machine on a "Silk" setting along with all the other silk things like: silk liner gloves, silk thermals and silk undies.

I've found silk stuff works really well; light, durable, warm (even when damp) - and silk thermals don't get smelly like synthetics.

Since I'm on about this - http://www.nznature.co.nz/ is a great place for everything except mummy sleeping bag liners. Delivery is surprisingly fast a few days at most.

Edited: 12/04/2007 at 13:57

Moggy

12/04/2007 at 14:12

Thanks for that redyeti, ive just been having a look on the jagbags site, they are indeed a bit cheaper if you get them direct rather than from ebay.

do you think the enura silk is worth having over the standard one?

Moggy

12/04/2007 at 14:13

on another note...has anyone seen the definition of jagbag on the urban dictionary which comes up if you google jagbag lol

captain paranoia

12/04/2007 at 18:37

Since no-one seems to have managed a link yet:

Jagbags

Mark Stewart

13/04/2007 at 11:38

Oooh got a bit excited there when I looked at the prices only to discover they're in US dollars and not the nice New Zealand ones.

Was going to ask if anyone was interested in the bulk purchase option - but then it probably won't be that economical as they'll have to be shipped to one UK address and then dispatched on from there. Oh well.

ptc*

13/04/2007 at 11:41

I tried to buy one, £18 is really good as it happens, and the website crashed and rejected me.
Oh well.

Moggy

13/04/2007 at 11:47

im gonna order one as soon as ive been paid.

cant decide between the thin or endura silk one though.

Edited: 13/04/2007 at 11:48

RedYeti

13/04/2007 at 13:55

I'd always go with the lighter one. Whatever it is! I've been amazed how much pack weight I've saved just by shaving the odd ten or twenty grams off here and there.

I've not found the lighter alternatives for anything to be so much less durable that I wished I'd carried the extra weight.

Managed to get my winter wild-camp pack weight down from 16Kg to 11Kg this winter. Lighter sack, bag, down jacket - just need lighter crampons now but the alloy ones don't strong enough for UK stuff. I don't think I need to tell anyone how much of a difference that made. But I digress...

Edited: 13/04/2007 at 13:59

Matt C

13/04/2007 at 14:30

RedYeti
I'm not sure how technical you're getting with your crampon use, but take a look at the Kahtoola KTS Steel ones here. They're very light and pack very small compared to any others I've ever had.

I didn't get a lot of use from mine this year but I was happy to carry them a lot! I did lend them to someone for the OM Winter Skills course in Feb and they went up Aladin's Couloir in Coire an t'Sneachda using them....

Sorry, bit OT from sleeping bag liners there. BTW I agree about getting the lightest liner - I've always found them fine.

Edited: 13/04/2007 at 14:31

Moggy

14/04/2007 at 23:43

has anyone been stung for import or tax whne ordering stuff from NZ?

Pete B

15/04/2007 at 00:56

I have a Sea to Summit mummy liner made form silk and say silk is definately worth the extra money as it is so comfy compare to cotton.

lentenrose

15/04/2007 at 01:10

redyeti thanks for nz link-- ordering long johns+top for sleeping--more versatile than liner--------moggy---no

Moggy

15/04/2007 at 16:05

Forgot to say while i was looking for info on the lemon tree liners i found their website.

http://www.globallemon.co.uk/

and also found them for sale at snow and rock in the sleeping bag section.

unfortuantely they are way over budget so her indoors is treating us to some jagbag ones.

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